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Went to a small regional socialist political conference recently and there was a lot of discussion about this. It has really advanced my worldview, especially having recently read Settlers.

The doctrinaire Marxist analysis of society is that there is a proletariat working class, and there is a capitalist class. The capitalists exploit the proles, and the proles are revolutionary. We are all familiar with this.

However, communists in every country must adapt this analysis to their own actual existing society. This requires answering three questions:

  1. The history of this region is characterized by ________
  2. The contradictions of the current moment are primarily ________
  3. The revolutionary class is _________

In Russia the revolutionary class was the industrial proletariat, and in China the revolutionary class were the peasants. We can't pretend the US has any similarity to Tsarist Russia. So what are the answers to these questions in our context? I'll give my own thoughts as a comment.

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[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Indigenous people moreso; I say this mainly because I've seen black Americans fall for the trap of "patriotism" for the land and fight in the army.

Haven't seen that from indigenous people tho.

[–] Othello@hexbear.net 31 points 5 months ago

https://www.nicoa.org/american-indian-veterans-have-highest-record-of-military-service/

Check your brainworms, comrade, this reads as "black people so gullible native American people so wise" also this is a ridiculous take just looking at both the history of black radicalism and the extremely small size of the native American population.

[–] hypercracker@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

There just aren't very many indigenous people unfortunately. The genocide was very thorough. Ballpark 5 million indigenous people and 50 million black people.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

Having that "patriotism" weaponized against them to commit a nation wide cultural and in a lot of cases literal genocide against them probablly made them appropriately suspicious when they heard the same arguments being made about "foreigners" by people who weren't orig8nally from this country.