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A fringe website featured the purported names and addresses of the Fulton County grand jury that indicted Trump and 18 other people for their efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

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[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That's some powerful malarkey they're on. Almost enough to make me think the Union lost the civil war when the Confederates were brought back in. Stuff like this is how it's been coming back to bite us.

[–] CMLVI@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Malarkey is a hell of a thing

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

yeah almost like a drug even, and they are raging, tweaking freaks for it

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The inability of the good to do seemingly "evil" things for the sake of good will be the downfall of humanity.

Example: imprisoning a psycopathic narcissist who thinks they can literally murder someone and get away with it. Good people should be OK with such a person losing freedoms!

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pretty sure the person you're talking about is Trump, in which case he's facing almost triple-digit felonies, so how exactly are people not OK with imprisoning him?

I'm not seeing the "inability of good" here.

[–] WindInTrees@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Well it's taking a long-ass time to get him behind bars, plus, he'll still be able to run for president from prison.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Remember: It's been almost forty months since a literal insurrection attempt and literal sedition where people died.

The inability of good has already happened: He's had years of working with Republicans to plan the next attempt.

Even the FBI has openly admitted investigations were hamstrung.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hamstrung and yet here he is with 90+ indictments.

The federal government generally prosecutes high-value cases slowly, so they make sure they have a case they can win.

You not seeing things happening doesn't mean things aren't happening. The system is in motion and once begun it doesn't stop.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hitler got arrested within 3 days of his coup attempt, and got a trial in 4 months time. He was in jail five months after his coup attempt.

He was pardoned by his friends after spending just a year in jail.

Getting Trump in jail is not the end of this story, it doesn't fix everything. It would be a first step, and the US is still not there.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These are wildly different situations and Trump is no Hitler

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Keep making excuses for people failing to execute on the promises of equality and justice.

It really goes to show how much you believe in America's "all men are created equal" to just shrug your shoulders at a literal traitor having years of freedom.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TIL the government "failing to execute" is when you have 91 felony charges

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Four years later. Four years. Four years.

Do normal people get FOUR YEARS of mouthing off and planning future crimes after they assault the government?

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some of the people who actively participated in j6 are still facing trial, so... yes.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They weren't the fucking MAIN BENEFACTOR OF A COUP.

It's like you fucking morons do not understand basic reality. The constitution REQUIRES a timely trial. Just because you can point to instances of the judicial system literally failing to uphold the constitution doesn't magically make it OK.

Seriously, the "better late than never" crowd utterly fails to realize how corrupting a two-tiered justice system is...

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you fucking morons do not understand basic reality

Says the person angry about legal procedures taking a long time.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The preexisting nature of something should NEVER be justification for its existence.

If it exists for good reasons, give THOSE reasons. Notice how you gave no reasons why it should be acceptable.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like legal proceedings taking time because it means bott teams have adequate time to prepare.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It took FOUR YEARS to BRING THE CHARGES, not start the case, you pathetic buffoon.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Yes that's how long investigations take. Now it will have 7 more months to begin trials

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

As is tradition. The Union won the war but lost the peace.

[–] JuzoInui@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

There was a reason that in some conflicts you don’t let anyone walk away, cause embers buried deep can simmer for generations and pop out and burn you alive