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submitted 10 months ago by iusearchbtw@lemmy.sdf.org to c/gaming@beehaw.org

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/2277558

On PC, the game is 139.84 GB. On console, it's 100.19 GB for Standard or 117.07 GB for the Premium Edition

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[-] phuntis@sopuli.xyz 15 points 10 months ago

I'm pretty sure bethesda said playing starfield with a hard drive isn't great 1tb SSDs aren't too expensive anymore I'd really recommend moving away from a hard drive

[-] Crankpork@beehaw.org 46 points 10 months ago

Ah, yeah, I was using hard drive as a catch-all term. My laptop only holds M.2 drives. I’m old, it’s all hard drives to me. =P

[-] MrZee@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Old curmudgeons unite! I totally knew what you meant.

Edit: that said, I would add NVMe SSD as the way to go… although I think that is pretty much all you find these days. Are non-nvme m.2 drives a thing?

[-] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah you can get SATA m.2 drives.

[-] lloram239@feddit.de 3 points 10 months ago

M.2 SATA drives are still a thing, same port, but different slower protocol as NVMe. They are less common, but still around and available in TB size. Don't think there is any reason to get this outside of compatibility with old hardware.

There is also mSATA, which is a different port from M.2, but has a very similar look and size. Also slower than NVMe and no reason to get them unless you have hardware that uses them (e.g. some old Beelink miniPC have them).

[-] interolivary@beehaw.org 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I definitely support the hypothesis that calling all storage drives hard drives is an old curmudgeon thing 😅 I've been doing computer nerdery for way over 30 years, and a hard drive is a hard drive even if it doesn't have spinny disks in it

[-] Crankpork@beehaw.org 4 points 10 months ago

I don't know when I became my mother. It happened so gradually I barely even noticed.

[-] interolivary@beehaw.org 4 points 10 months ago

I think we all swear to ourselves that we won't grow up to be like those old people who seem to cling to the past.

Then one day you find yourself going "well it's a hard drive to me, I don't care what it should be called"

[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 3 points 10 months ago

SSD's are hard!

[-] hogart@feddit.nu 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

A 1tb Steam Deck-sized NVMe drive is about 120 bucks right now. Not cheap. But not insanely prices either.

[-] phuntis@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago
[-] interolivary@beehaw.org 13 points 10 months ago

Huh I always thought "hard drive" was the umbrella category, and SSDs and spinny disk drives are subcategories.

[-] Onihikage@beehaw.org 8 points 10 months ago

I think storage or storage drive is the umbrella term these days. "Hard drive" was always short for "Hard Disk Drive" (which was named in comparison to Floppy Disk Drive) but since it was the only type of drive used for non-volatile internal storage for a good 20 years or so, it became a catch-all term. These days, many people understand there's two different kinds and a lot of systems have both, so hard drive is becoming recognized to mean the spinning disks; as opposed to SSD, which is now an umbrella term incorporating 2.5" SATA, M.2 SATA, and M.2 NVMe, which are all Solid State Drives but different combinations of interfaces and form factors.

[-] Poggervania@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago

Nah, the "SS" and "HD" bits refers to how each storage disk reads data. HDDs use hard metal disks to read & write data, hence it got the misnomer hard disk drive. SSDs use solid state flash memory to read & write data, hence it being called a solid state drive.

If you want the general category, you'd want to say "storage drive" specifically since if you say "drive", that can also refer to an optical drive (AKA the CD slot) or a USB drive (AKA flash/thumb drives).

[-] Blake@feddit.uk 3 points 10 months ago

The classic, computer science term for all of these devices is "secondary storage", if anyone's looking for a way to confuse people briefly before explaining that you mean "hard drives, SSDs, etc."

[-] thanevim@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

I've been seeing both recently. I've opted to err on the same side and just make it clear when I'm talking about spinning rust versus solid state.

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