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Fuck all cops, but should we really be calling them bastards? (beehaw.org)

submitted 1 month ago by rosethornRangerTTV@beehaw.org to c/socialism@beehaw.org

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ACAB is a common slogan, especially in anarchist spaces. Should we really be using it though? It is a reference to children born without their parents being married, and due to christian morality is seen as inherently negative. It is effectively a slur. Do we really think that trying to enforce the hierarchies we are trying to get away from on others is going to help us? How have we allowed this slogan to become so common?

As an anarchist I think we should be defending these people, not punishing them with the hope of some of that transferring to cops.

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[–] rosethornRangerTTV@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

https://www.pricegen.com/bastardy-or-illegitimacy-in-england/

some info I found it

a common thing is a lack of support structures or networks, often forced out of the nuclear family unit

[–] Vodulas@beehaw.org 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The laws listed in that collection all punish the parents, not the children. Most of them require the father to support the child, with the one in 1747 even giving the children apprenticeships with local tradesmen and farmers.

[–] rosethornRangerTTV@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

if they have to make laws to make sure the children aren't abandoned, they are abandoned often

[–] Vodulas@beehaw.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure, but the laws are a sign of systemic support, not oppression.

[–] rosethornRangerTTV@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

there are laws against rape, yet it is still used as a tool to maintain oppression and as oppression itself.

I'm done with this conversation