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[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

May be a dumb question, but is PSL Trot?

[–] Babs@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Has Trot roots, but generally works as a regular Marxist-Leninist party now. Same with Workers World Party and a few others. They're cool now.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cool, was curious because of their roots. Thanks!

[–] Babs@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They support AES and anti-imperialist movements. Not "trots" in the same way those wreckers are.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Wait, so is PSL somehow Trot then? I'm confused now. bocchi-cry

[–] da_gay_pussy_eatah@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The PSL split from a party that was, many decades ago, a Trot party. But the PSL itself has never been a Trot party (split memes notwithstanding), and that history is pretty irrelevant to what the party is today.

The PSL doesn't really bother to have "a line" on Trotsky or Stalin. Rather, it correctly eschews that "great person" framing of history and instead analyses the historical material conditions of the Soviet Union etc. It's certainly not "anti-Stalinist" like Trots always are; nobody is going to look at you strangely for speaking positively of Stalin.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

Cool, thank you!

[–] Babs@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No no, I'm saying that PSL doesn't do any of the shit we hate trots for. They're cool.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

Ah, okay, sorry! Haha Thanks!