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Author Joel Williamson shared Elvis kept a group of three 14-year-old girls with him on the tour who were up "for pillow fights, tickling, kissing and cuddling when he was 22.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 30 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Paedophilia seemed weirdly acceptable right up until around 2000 or so. It's really quite surreal how commonplace it was.

[–] psion1369@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I won't say acceptable, as there were still issues and such, but it was definitely persecuted differently.

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago

Amateur. In the 70s they admitted it in song.

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Plus it was easier to cover up back then.

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Uh… no. Baby raping has always been frowned upon as far as I’m concerned. 14 year old consensual (to the extent a 14 year old can be) groupies were a thing, in the not too distant past, but social mores have changed since then. Which is good. There’s an enormous difference between the two though.

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think you may be wrong. Wikipedia tells me that:

"In 1880, the ages of consent were set at 10 or 12 in most states, with the exception of Delaware where it was 7."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_the_United_States

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Delaware is whack, but historically age 12-15 was a reasonable (for the time) age for girls to marry. Most biblical scholars say that Mary (JC’s mother) was about 15/16 when she popped him out (assuming there is some historical fact in the story) so those ages in your country weren’t completely crazy outliers. People grew up quicker back then because people died sooner back then. Just getting to the age of 12 was an accomplishment in its self. The past was a different place. If humanity makes it a few more generations then some of the things we accept and do now will be seen as unacceptable. We are all products, to a greater or lesser degree, of the time we live in and that shapes how we see the world as it is and as it has been.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think it was that people weren't seen as victims. They weren't seen as helpless

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Absolutely. The optics of the past don’t match-up with the optics of the present.