M. Proudhon has the misfortune of being peculiarly misunderstood in Europe. In France, he has the right to be a bad economist, because he is reputed to be a good German philosopher. In Germany, he has the right to be a bad philosopher, because he is reputed to be one of the ablest French economists. Being both German and economist at the same time, we desire to protest against this double error.

—Karl Marx, Foreword to The Poverty of Philosophy

I feel like this somehow applies to Jordan Peterson.

M. Proudhon's work is not just a treatise on political economy, an ordinary book; it is a bible. "Mysteries", "Secrets Wrested from the Bosom of God", "Revelations" – it lacks nothing. But as prophets are discussed nowadays more conscientiously than profane writers, the reader must resign himself to going with us through the arid and gloomy eruditions of "Genesis", in order to ascend later, with M. Proudhon, into the ethereal and fertile realm of super-socialism.

[–] bumpusoot@hexbear.net 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I was going to say Marx would've dunked on Peterson in his signature dunking way, and here indeed is the proof.

The only sad thing about Marx not getting Peterson's advice is that we missed out on the incredible put downs he would've responded with. marx-war

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

M. Proudhon has the misfortune of being peculiarly misunderstood in Europe. In France, he has the right to be a bad economist, because he is reputed to be a good German philosopher. In Germany, he has the right to be a bad philosopher, because he is reputed to be one of the ablest French economists. Being both German and economist at the same time, we desire to protest against this double error.

This is one of the hardest dunks i ever read, hell, Marx even went as far as to write a dunk book about guy in the guy own native language just to make the puns and points land even harder. Absolute chad.

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Also the title is itself an inversion of the book being critiqued. Proudhon’s The Philosophy of Poverty became Marx’s The Poverty of Philosophy, which is just chefs-kiss

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah i meant this too.