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[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

When have politicians ever done something that wasn't for optics?

To get change requires positive reinforcement. Next time, she might go a step further. Every time she says something, some in her audience get the chance to realize that it's not anti-semitic to condemn the killing of children.

This is why AIPAC didn't want any Palestinian speaking at the DNC and why they spent millions against Bowman and Bush. Because they don't want to normalize criticism of Israel.

That's the current door that needs to be opened wide in the mainstream.

To get change, critical mass is needed.

I even applaud Candace Owens and Dan Bilzerian for speaking out, even though I don't agree with them on anything else.

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 52 points 3 weeks ago

When have politicians ever done something that wasn't for optics?

Do you have any idea how much realpolitik is done with total disregard for optics, public opinion and the common good? Politics is driven by the interests of the ruling class, which in our society is the class that owns capital. Optics are the PR you tack on it afterwards when it's convenient.

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 44 points 3 weeks ago

When have politicians ever done something that wasn't for optics?

I'm Spanish. A party called "Podemos" (relatively leftist) didn't ever condemn Maduro and didn't support the state police intervening in Catalonia during the referendum, knowing full well it was bad optics when it concerns the majority of Spanish population. Not everything is optics, there are principles.

[–] kittin@hexbear.net 43 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If I continue being a doormat and giving them all of my body and soul despite their constant abuse, eventually they’ll realize that they love me.

[–] HexBeara@hexbear.net 21 points 3 weeks ago

I knew it! Can't wait to help my friend canvas then be told we need to focus on the (((north))) county and that we need Republicans(?) to support war. Can't believe my local Dems could be so cunning and LIBERAL(Derogatory).

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 41 points 3 weeks ago

I even applaud Candace Owens and Dan Bilzerian for speaking out

jesse-wtf

[–] shreddingitlater@hexbear.net 35 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

"Positive reinforcement"???? Motherfucker, who gives a fuck if you have everyonr congratulating you for the right take or not if you have the "positive reinforcement" of bookoo bucks in campaign funds? Being anti Israel IS ALREADY MAINSTREAM. That's the whole reason for the optics, they know its popular, but their financial interests or ideological beliefs prevent them from actually enacting any change. They will dangle these keys in front of your face until every last Palestinian is dead for all they care.

You strike me as one of those people we'd call "deeply unserious".

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago

It's been so long since ops politicians did anything other than wring their hands and tweet positioning statements, so long since the news covering them has reported anything other than politicians/citizen feefeez/their own opinions, i wouldn't be surprised if op thought that was all politics actually fucking were.

The absolute cynicism of this pennymatinee we sit thru like clockwork Orange breaks one's goddamn mind

[–] brainw0rms@hexbear.net 28 points 3 weeks ago

monkey-typewriter speech-l

absolutely brainless diarrhea being typed by your hands, never post again big-honk

[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago

To get change requires positive reinforcement.

lmfao she's not a dog hahahaha what is this shit?