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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I looks like there was fire, but it doesn't look like it came from where the battery is. The battery runs from front to back on the bottom of the vehicle. This looks like the fire was only at the front. So perhaps whatever was impacted caught on fire but the battery never ignited perhaps?

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's impossible to tell from a single photo, but it looks like the fire was possibly localized to the wheel-well. I can't think of anything that might ignite in there, though.

[–] aniki@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] papabobolious@feddit.nu 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

on EVs as far as I understand the brakes are barely used due to regenerative braking, so they should not be running hot unless the car is being driven very hard.

This is generic knowledge and not necessarily applicable to the Cybertruck however.

[–] foofiepie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Spot on if it has regen braking. I haven’t had to change brake discs/shoes for 5 years.

[–] aniki@lemmy.zip -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

The system is only so useful and the cybertrucks absolutely have a hydrolic system with rotors and pads:

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/GUID-6DD1AA33-2FE0-44B0-93EA-17CF5BB80F76.html

It's ~~completely disabled~~ "significantly limited" limited when towing.

[–] papabobolious@feddit.nu 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I never denied the presence of brakes, I just mean for regular driving they are barely used, mostly with hard braking.

[–] aniki@lemmy.zip -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I can’t think of anything that might ignite in there, though.

Brakes yo. They get HOT

[–] papabobolious@feddit.nu 2 points 3 weeks ago

They will only get hot if they are used and I am implying without hard braking or hard driving they are barely used, so they are unlikely to achieve very high temperatures.

If the vehicle is being driven hard or jerky however that is a different story. Its very heavy and probably heats them up quite a lot when driven hard.

All of this is of course speculation based on what I know about regenerative brakes and regular disc brakes.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

the battery can provide the energy to start a fire somewhere else in the vehicle via short circuit connection

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Tesla's have a pyrofuse that blows on impact detection which disconnects the battery:

[–] Trilobite@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] __dev@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Not sure what you're expecting that fuse to do when the battery is on fire from crash damage?

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The High Voltage battery has a pyrofuse that blows to isolate the battery in case of a crash.

Theoretically I guess the 12V system could short circuit, just like any other vehicle. Except there can't be any gasoline spilled for a short to ignite.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Theoretically I guess the 12V system could short circuit, just like any other vehicle. Except there can’t be any gasoline spilled for a short to ignite.

And modern Tesla vehicles, like the Cybertruck don't use a standard car lead acid car battery (which would have 48Ah or so). Instead they use a 16v small lithium battery (which has only 6.9Ah). Further, this battery system has short protection built into it with an auto resetting breaker.

So this battery, with its significantly less energy stored, has less chance of fire from a short than a standard car battery.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Reaching a bit there, what's located at the right/passenger side that would burn?

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

A Samsung tablet