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[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, I am not describing my personal beliefs, merely arguing what I perceive to be an objective position. I think the idea that right and wrong can exist outside of people's judgements is a little silly, honestly. I am not a philosopher though, admittedly.

[–] livus@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm actually not trying to argue with you, @Candelestine, just trying to work out what your perceived "objective position" is so I can understand you. It does kind of sound like moral relativism if you think "wrong" is only a construct.

If that's the case, I can see why you don't believe in inalienable human rights.

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, I guess I don't. I give people inalienable rights, but I do not think they exist outside of our opinions. We choose the things we value, and some things make more sense to value than others.

This is why it remains so important to fight for the rights of people. Because otherwise we will not necessarily receive them.

[–] livus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks for explaining your position. One nitpick, if rights only exist when/where they are given, then they can't be "inalienable". You believe rights are alienable (able to be removed).

But I agree with you totally about the importance of fighting for rights to be extended politically, recognised and not violated.

In the end, it doesn't much matter whether you think people have rights from an ethical point of view or if you just think they should be given them - we both want the same outcome.

The only problem arises if there is a group of people you want to take human rights away from.