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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Most scientific and engineering skills would also be useless if civilization collapses. For example, I am a scientific software developer. Most of my work has been for medical research, which is something people tend to respect. However, I wouldn't be able to do anything useful with numerical modelling in a survival situation. My limited skills as an amateur home renovator would be far more relevant.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I agree with the rebuilding civilization from scratch part, but it's still what advances society.

*In this case, what will advance society is farming equipment. Machining science.

[–] Tobberone@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's a bit like Maslows hierarchy of needs. First we need food and water and plumbing. When we are secure in those needs, society can take the next step. But the basis of security must be there before advancement

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I would say we need hygiene, which is different than plumbing. Plumbing comes into play when we have cities large enough that we can't rely on outhouses.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, most professions that would be needed to survive in an apocalypse or rebuild society, aren't things that an already functioning modern society can support everyone doing anyway. We need farmers and carpenters and such, but we don't need so many as to have openings for a majority of the population to be them, these days.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but then it doesn't seem fair to pick on the executive international sales and marketing analyst.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This image has strong stone throwing in a glass house energy.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 months ago

Nah OP is ready.

[–] aniki@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

Right, but you can certainly use lower level CS knowledge to do fun and whimsical things.