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[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (17 children)

I think the "smart" home will become more common.

I don't mean that we'll see smart versions of new things, but more of the basic things, like Light fixtures, smoke alarms, doorbells etc. Consumers will buy less and less of the "dumb" things until EVERYTHING has WiFi built into it.

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

I've worked in the home automation industry for over twenty five years. I've been programming "smart lighting" for over ten.

The "smart home" you see today is largely thanks to how cheaply things are made in china and repackaged by mega-corporations. And the consumers' desire to do everything from their phone (with 2 day shipping). Automated lighting control has existed for over forty years. It's been expensive because the parts are built to last for forty plus years and most of the older system were manufactured in the US. Those manufacturers are still mostly making things in the US but a lot of little bits are imported.

An average 2,500 sq ft home could do a whole automated lighting system for about five grand. That's a lot for someone to buy (and install) from Amazon but it's nothing if it's bundled into your mortgage.

Nothing beats a wire. For a small apartment with a few lighting circuits, sure, spend $500 on some wireless doodads. Now you're stuck relying on software updates and firmware updates by your router, your wireless bridge, your smart buttons, your lighting fixtures, your mobile OS, the lighting app, and maybe another app to combine everything, not to mention your "smart speaker" if you want to yelp your commands into the air. On the other hand, if you get everything from one manufacturer, it's built on an isolated network that grants access to your mobile device and the system is self contained and essentially bulletproof until the power goes out.

Lighting is a life safety segment. You won't pass inspection unless you can turn the lights on and off from a physical switch or button that doesn't rely on your home wifi.

It's up to electricians and builders and AV experts (and CEDIA) to convince future home owners that it's worth getting this stuff installed before the home is built rather than letting them decide to buy something prone to failure on their own.

I love smart lighting. I wish everyone would invest any amount of money into it. But, if I'm reading you right, a wifi lighting world is not something I would hope to see become more commonplace than the current path of wired automated lighting. I'm in agreement with you though. It's really sad when I walk into brand new homes that have no lighting control (or distributed audio) at all.

[–] Uncurious3512@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks for sharing your experiences! Are there any brands, guides, platforms, etc that you would recommend?

I'm getting my feet wet with Home Assistant and would love to "Do it right"!

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Lutron is the most common for lighting and shades. They work closely with electricians, architects, and designers. Lutron has some consumer facing products (Caseta) that may be applicable to most people wanting to take a step into real control systems. That's not to say they have all the capabilities you're looking for - they stay in their lane.

Crestron is far more robust as they offer everything from lights, shades, speakers, control systems, AV distribution, etc. They're huge in commercial too. You would need to contact an AV pro to get Crestron installed and programmed.

There's handful of other brands you may come across (Control4, Savant) as you research your local AV installers. I don't have as much experience with them. Both had questionable beginnings but I would assume they're much better now.

Just make sure whoever you deal with is authorized or certified dealers and programmers. It'll cost a bit more than people working out of their trunks - but you get what you pay for. As with all things 'internet', do your own research. I can suggest starting here https://cedia.org/homeowners/

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