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[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 67 points 2 months ago (6 children)

plant-based protein options still play a major role in diets

said as if it were a bad thing

[–] Edamamebean@hexbear.net 61 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

No it isn't?

From the article:

But the Chinese people are also showing that it is possible to increase protein consumption without eating as much meat as the Americans, which also benefits the planet.

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago

Why are the Chinese not aiming for the Big Chungus physique? Why are they so scared of it? Could it be a CCP PROPAGANDA??

[–] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah this one is very confusing. Tofu is delicious in Chinese food. Mapo tofu is one of the greatest treasures we have available to us. You can't "replace" the tofu in that dish with a meat, it wouldn't work at all.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The whole idea that something like tofu just exists without being a meat substitute is unimaginable to a lot of people

[–] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"meat substitution" type dishes are stupid anyway. There are thousands of years of delicious non-meat meals, built around the ingredients as they are. Dishes don't need meat at all to be delicious, just construct your dishes around the ingredients you have and they'll be wonderful. Trying to shoehorn in "replacements" just creates weird stuff.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Disagreeing heavily here. Chicken Nuggets are good as fuck and they basically nailed those in vegan form, which begs the question, why not?

[–] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think chicken nuggets is a great example where it works because "real" "chicken" nuggets are basically meat substitute products anyway.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

Agree'd, but we ain't starting at 0 and chicken nuggets were around to define the flavour before plant based alternatives were ever made, so yeah, they're a substitute. Good stuff though, would've been better if we never had to take the detour of the animal abuse

[–] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's very much a cultural thing. A lot of cuisine in the americas is built around chattle culture. With the best land used for commodity cultivation, the ever moving, ever expanding peripheric frontier of american colonies was used for chattle ranching. 'Cowboy Culture' was invented by the spanish and the portuguese, after all. So all compositions follow a similar pattern. What type of meat, what type of cut, how to season it, and then what type of side dishes to accompany it.

Even here in Brazil where Rice+Black Beans is considered the staple food people will still add a serving of red or white meat to their plate as if they weren't already eating more protein than they probably need. Nevermind cutting meat entirely, having meat as a secondary or a tertiary aspect of a dish is culturally strange and something that would indicate poverty in most people's eyes.

[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

the volatile American tends to get abnormally antsy and restless, especially when in the company of their peers. one instance that these symptoms may occur in is when ambient bloodlust isn't being maximized. to address this, they may need to be provided external enrichment to distract themselves with–for instance: burger that requires a saving throw to survive

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago

These Amerikkkans looked at the myth of the wendigo, and just thought it was a model...

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago

said as if it were a bad thing

DAE LE EPIC BACON marketing and its consequences have been a disaster.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Literally the cringe American soylent green nightmare meat slop v.s. the based gigachad Chinese soybean-based plant protien.

The duality of soy.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tofu and tempeh are both staples in my diet and last I checked I’m still alive.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago

oh yeah sorry meaning to say that american meat protein is literally soylent green type pink slime in the original sense. Various parts from like 9 different dead diseased mass produced animals, all of which spent their entire lives drowning in their own shit and piss, either sold whole or blended together and formed into patties for consumption.

shouldve specified I meant this instead of the reactionary use of "soylent" to mean plant based meat substitutes

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

And it's not like the article claims that the Chinese diet is some vegetarian or vegan one, according to the article almost 50% of the protein Chinese people eat comes from animal sources. Which is still a lot, and still expected to increase.

By 2019, animal proteins accounted for 49.2 per cent of China’s protein intake, according to a Chinese study published last year in the peer-reviewed journal Environment, Development and Sustainability...

UN projections suggest that on present trends meat consumption in China could increase by 21 per cent from 2010 levels by the end of this decade

[–] featured@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 months ago

Is that meat consumption per capita or for the whole country