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I went to Vietnam a couple times. If you hang out downtown in the city, you might get a random Jehovah's Witness or Seventh Day Adventist* try to chat you up. "Oh, we can't do missionary work out in the open, so we just do one-on-one conversations like this". Despite the lack of "Jesus saves, die sinner" signs in Hanoi, you can definitely find Catholic and Protestant churches in Vietnam.

The Western press likes to piss and moan about settler nation missionaries that go, without proper visas mind you, to spread their Western versions of Christianity to the DPRK, only to get deported. So am I allowed to enter a white people country without a visa to stir up trouble and expect no consequences???

I'm the furthest thing from an expert on Myanmar. I get everything I know from Burmese friends. But if you look into the minority people situation, many of them are being heavily proselytised by the worst of the Amerikan type. I don't want the Pat Robertson's the world anywhere near struggling people.

*I'm definitely not saying that JWs and SDAs are anywhere near the worst as Christian sects go.

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[–] Thallo@hexbear.net 60 points 2 months ago (41 children)

That's a pretty cold take, let me heat it up for you:

AES states should just outright ban Western religions. A Western country has a revolution? Yup, they ban their own religion.

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 70 points 2 months ago (17 children)

I'm aggressively anti-Catholic and anti-Christian and I 100% agree with this statement.

Death to Christianity. The church is the biggest mafia of Poland, and this suck religion has caused untold amounts of harm.

inb4 "you are a reactionary bad take haver, religion can sometimes be good actually"

I don't even fucking care no more, not after what the fuckers have done since 1989.

Alternatives to the bullshit shall be setup, every church (10357 of them) shall either be demolished or turned into museums.

Christians will be persecuted as bad as they think they were during PRL, Popiełuszko's death will look like a fucking tea party.

Infinite genocide on the first world and every kkkrackkker defending it's bullshit.

Rant overino :3333

[–] RomCom1989@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I think churches should remain as sites of cultural significance,the old ones at least

Bad institution or not,they are still part of the cultural heritage and had a lot of work and skill put into them

The institution of the church can go the way of the dodo however

Nevermind,re read the comment

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

A cathedral with ornaments up the wazoo? Saved.

The local village parish? 🧨🧨🧨🧨💥💥💥💥💥🚫⛪🚫

[–] RomCom1989@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fair enough

For me it's a bit different, being in an Orthodox country,the small churches are really old and culturally significant, and the bigass cathedral in the capital city built in the last decade is the place that the next Ceausescu should build a House of the People on

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

In Norway as well there are some churches in the middle of nowhere that aren't very big but are literally 1,000 years old or nearing on it. I'd see no problem with keeping these buildings but using them in practice as secular communal institutions. I'd see for that matter no issue with letting people read religious texts, provided that people know their proper context and historicity.

My views on religion otherwise still lack much form, however...

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Revolution will bring down the Jan Paweł II statues

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Better yet, I'll scrap them all into fridges and washing machines. (Dishwashers not included)

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Aren't they mostly out of stone?

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 months ago

Many went throwing cash making them out of metal. Like in Katowice for example. And many more exist, I've seen plenty, quite a few fridges could be made.

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