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[–] julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, a bunch of ernest and thoughtful philosophers called it effective altruism (see Toby Ord, will mccaskill, Peter singer). Then it was adopted by the deluded arrogant tech/finance bros and yeah yikes. Sucks to be a philosopher I guess. Someone uses your ideas fraudulently and boom, they're your problem.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Anyone that spends more time philosophizing about doing good than doing good isn't worth listening to.

Peter Singer, btw, Mr Effective Altruism himself, wanted to genocide disabled infants. Not abort them as fetuses. Infanticide them.

[–] julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you think ideas can't do good, then it sounds like you haven't spent much time listening to anyone. Obviously if you'd considered it even cursorily you'd recognise that we need philosophy/politics/law to get beyond "sky man says bad" levels of ethics and morality in society.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Your opinion is irrelevant, you didn't even detect the difference between no thought at all and the criticism of thinking about doing good more than doing good.

[–] julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

How about if you spend more time being an ass to people online than doing good?