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What is your favorite obscure old hot take to ever pop up on this site? For @Civility purposes, nothing from active users, please. Also "power dynamics" isn't obscure. (hexbear.net)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by UlyssesT@hexbear.net to c/askchapo@hexbear.net

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I'll give mine to get the ball rolling.

There was a user that, before getting banned, declared that every single living human being alive on Earth right now should not exist because no one had the benefit of a pre-conception device on hand to somehow determine each individual's consent to exist before they started to exist.

I don't know if that take would make David Benatar blush, make David Benatar cackle with glee, or if that was posted by David Benatar himself.

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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago

Idk why it's such a common thing on this site for people to not separate arguments being made

You lead with this, that's why.

idk they sound technically correct to me

You're glad to be alive after the fact but you still didn't consent to it and it is kinda fucked to bring people into a world that is literally filled with suffering

"If you could ask and receive consent, should you?" and idk I think the answer in that case would be yeah, you should get consent before subjecting a living being to... gestures around

If I had a big shiny button to build communism yes I'd press it but I don't have that button and that button isn't coming anytime soon, so I'd rather discuss things with more plausible presence than the big shiny communism button.

we don't need to fight ulyssest when we agree on 90% of this

K. The thought experiment is silly to me anyway, and because the old user that leaned hard on it seemed to have an actual inclination toward "all reproduction is bad actually," that's why I brought it up to begin with.