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[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The first thing I did after posting this was to see if MO was anywhere near being in play for POTUS.

This’ll help but I’m guessing not enough to flip the state. Still should help down ballot elections.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Missouri is more purple than people realize. They often vote against their own interests nationally, but locally they vote relatively progressive

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A PVI of R+10 is not “more purple than people realize.” That’s as red as NY is blue.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Polls don't matter in this instance. Look at the state record, which shows a modest progressive lean on statewide and municipal politics and a moderate conservative lean on federal politics.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly half of our last 12 governors were democrats, but the guy you're responding to is either a troll or an idiot. Probably a bit of both.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

PVI is historical voting record. Holy shit my man, at the bare minimum understand a conversation before dumping your ignorant thoughts into it.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

The index looks at how every congressional district voted in the past two presidential elections combined and compares it to the national average.

Sounds like a poll to me. If you actually look at how the politics play out at the state level, it tells a different story.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I definitely don't expect the Bible thumping deep south to flip, hell im not even sure i expect this ballot measure to pass. but the down ballot races will definitely be where it helps

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Deep south.....Do you know where missouri is?

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I do, and while it's not as deep as some I still consider it to caucus with a lot of the red hell holes on average based on its legislature and voting history.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

First, missouri is very clearly and well known as "midwest".

Second, it leans republican, but it's fairly purple. Dem presidential nominee pretty much always gets at least 40% of the vote, and over the past 50 years it's 6 and 6 on dem vs republican governors.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Losing by 20 points isn’t close, at all.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 2 weeks ago

I said "at least", Nimrod. They have voted a win for democrats before, and a few elections back the republican only won by 0.1%.