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I just got permanently banned from a community for making a single harmless remark on a single post that was right there in the main feed. It's not a community I'm super active in so it's not like devastating, but it is annoying

If your precious little community is full of so many delicate sensitive people who can't even be reminded that another viewpoint even exists, then you should really protect them by defederating and having everyone join your private website

The mod has literally removed like 75% of the comments and banned everyone lol

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't have time to read every rule for every community that pops up when I'm in view all

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[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 62 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I got banned for downvoting. Kind of hard to take people seriously when they’re so sensitive to criticism that the equivalent of a thumbs down emoji gets you banned.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 35 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Pretty sure I just got banned from c/vegan because I downvoted "wrong". Haven't interacted in any other way, so not sure what else it could be. Also recently got banned from c/imageai for downvoting "too much"? This is a weird trend that seems like a bad path for Lemmy to go down if it's starting to become the norm.

*Also, what's up with not being able to block a community you're banned from? They don't want you there but you're forced to view their content? That makes no sense.

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I see a lot of comments about a particular vegan community. Sounds like people here need something like c/chillVegans where you don’t get kicked out unless you’re a total menace.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The problem is that people love to needle vegans, so it would just end up as gore.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How about you kick out all of the actual assholes?

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Feel free, based on this comment section, we’d all appreciate it.

I don’t personally want to sort through that gore, which is a pretty common attitude for vegans. I suspect that’s why there aren’t more general spaces for chill vegans.

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If the vegans there can’t take a joke, they aren’t very chill. However, being intentionally offensive and rude shouldn’t be tolerated, even if it’s a chill place.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Pretend that it’s any other earnestly held belief. I wouldn’t expect a chill Catholic community to be down with cannibalism jokes, I’d just expect them not to engage in purity tests or call non-Christians heathens. I’d expect that a chill Hindu community would remove “Holy cow!” comments, but they probably wouldn’t remove people for admitting they eat chicken or ban non-Hindus.

I would expect a chill vegan community not to remove comments from people who eat meat or to call omnivores “bloodmouths,” but jokes like “how do you spot a vegan?” or “I’m going to eat twice as much meat tonight to make up for you” would probably still get removed. I get that the second one seems harsh, but it’s a system of ethics for vegans, so it isn’t a joking matter for them.

Plus, all four of those jokes are way, way overdone.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago

Also, what's up with not being able to block a community you're banned from?

I'd like a setting that automatically hides communities where I can't participate. If I have to be a member of some club, hit some threshold of something, whatever; I just don't want to see it, then.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Also recently got banned from c/imageai for downvoting “too much”?

My guess is it's because there are a bunch of people who hate AI in general, and they want votes to instead reflect which images people like or don't like for what they are instead of every post having a negative score.

[–] admiralpatrick@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yep. Banning users who aren't subscribed to a community and are just downvoting everything that comes up is pretty common and understandable.

The typical modlog entry I see for that is "block the community or curate your feed", and I think that's pretty justified. It's like intentionally showing up somewhere you don't want to be just to "booooo" everything there. Being asked to leave and not demoralize the people just trying to exist in their own space is perfectly fine, IMO.

[–] aaaa@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Voting on content in the feed is helping to curate it for others. If a community gets more down votes than up votes, maybe the community is the one at odds with people

[–] admiralpatrick@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you're browsing "Subscribed" sure. But don't browse "all" just to shit on things you have no interest in. Block the community and move on 🤷‍♂️

[–] aaaa@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If downvoting for disagreement isn't okay, then why is it okay to upvote for agreement? (And why did you downvote me, if you think that's a bad thing?)

Voting is so users can express their opinion of what does or doesn't belong in the feed. People who can't handle mild criticism or disagreement shouldn't be posting things in public spaces

Personally, I agree with the vegan philosophy of reducing factory farming of meat. What I think is bad for society is villainizing anyone who doesn't 100% agree with the most extreme viewpoints. Which is explicitly the sort of posts I downvote

And also why I'm no longer allowed to downvote toxic vegan posts in Lemmy.ca

[–] admiralpatrick@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Also, what's up with not being able to block a community you're banned from?

Wait, really? I'm gonna have to check on that. Curious if that's an API limitation or a frontend bug. What frontend did you use? Lemmy-UI?

[–] ech@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] admiralpatrick@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Thanks. I'll add that to my test cases for the UI I work with. I don't think I've ever tried to block a community the test user was banned from, so I'm curious if it's an API restriction or the way the UI handles it. Will prob also submit a bug once I figure out which.

Edit: That looks like the community options that have the "block community" button are all hidden when you're banned rather than the "block" functionality being restricted. I'm almost positive now that it's just a UI bug. Will still add it to my test cases, though.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I just checked and using the default Lemmy UI (on desktop) you totally can block communities you're banned from. I'm pretty sure what we're looking at must be some kind of UI/front end bug.

[–] admiralpatrick@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks for the additional info. I'm gonna set up test cases in the UI I work with and try to confirm (and handle it better if need be). A UI bug was my assumption as well.

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah same. I don't downvote indescriminately, but a post had factory farmed fish : 0 not factory farmed. Like no shit. Whatever, that supermod was going off the deep end with their comments lately.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

I have zero clue who/what you're talking about, and I feel I'm better off for that.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

Is "agreement" a rule? That's too incongruous to believe -- only because loyalty requirements are a far right thing, not the rules for a group typically skewing left.