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When people talk about "therapy" here, they most likely are thinking of bog-standard talk therapy, where you just go in and kinda, well, talk to someone about your life, problems, etc.

For some people, it's enough to just get things off their chest, talk about things out loud with someone and helps them deal with their issues. I personally see such a therapist monthly and find it beneficial to my mental health.

For others, especially those with more intense troubles and traumas, it may not be, and would probably be served better by someone more specialized with said traumas.

Like any medical profession, the quality of individual therapists and mental health experts can vary widely, from chuds to libs to comrades and everything in-between. there's a solid chance you may not get the perfect fit on try 1, I didn't.

I just feel like some people are dipping their toes into Scientology-ish "all therapy is bad, never seek professional help for your problems" stuff, which I think is disastrous advice.

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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago (12 children)

I just feel like some people are dipping their toes into Scientology-ish "all therapy is bad, never seek professional help for your problems" stuff, which I think is disastrous advice.

Those people tend to lean into "just do (specific favored drug) it will fix everything" Joe Roganisms instead. Sure, drugs might help, but they are definitely not universal cures for feeling bad. As one example, the holy cure-all known as ketamine has famously done pretty much nothing good for one of its favorite consumers my-hero

[–] gueybana@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Those people tend to lean into "just do (specific favored drug) it will fix everything" Joe Roganisms instead. Sure, drugs might help, but they are definitely not universal cures for feeling bad.

Or, you know, they’ve actually spent a lifetime and endless amounts of money cycling through different mental health professionals only to find that the entire field is mostly just kumbaya bullshit with little rigour unless you’re lucky enough to find someone who truly knows what they’re doing.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (10 children)

mostly just kumbaya bullshit with little rigour

I already said drugs can be helpful. If you want to take a specific case of someone trying all sorts of therapy and none of it working to broad-brush therapy as "kumbaya bullshit", I can just as easily tell you about my cousin who rejected trying therapy for undiagnosed problems, self-medicated through at least a half-dozen substances that his college buddies had access to, but eventually simplified his self-treatment by drinking himself to death.

unless you’re lucky enough to find someone who truly knows what they’re doing.

Unless of course the amateur (and presumably "rigorous") self-prescribing pharmacist is lucky enough to find a drug that works and fixes everything without any further assistance required.

[–] gueybana@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I don’t think drugs are necessarily the answer but therapy is in most cases so prohibitively expensive it’s almost certainly never the answer for the majority of people. $50-100 per week on therapy, if we’re being extremely generous, could fund multiple drug addictions.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago

The way things are set up, yes, it's prohibitively expensive and standards (and methods of treatment) are sloppy and all over the place.

I don't think multiple drug addictions would really help that person either, at least not as much as the kind of educated and experienced person (be they a psychiatrist, psychologist, a very kind and understanding dealer, a shaman, or whatever) that would narrow down courses of treatment. In the case of the cousin I mentioned, just bouncing from one "just do (drug) bro don't be a (slur) bro" after another was almost like fad dieting, except more expensive.

I don't have easy answers when it comes to something being affordable and in easy reach with a keen diagnosis for someone in need that can't afford to try a lot of things.

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