587
Millions have amnesia about the worst of Trump's presidency. Memory experts explain why.
(www.motherjones.com)
this post was submitted on 18 Sep 2024
587 points (97.7% liked)
politics
18883 readers
3657 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
One of the biggest things I remember about his presidency was the fucking embarrassment. Other countries were mocking us and for good reason.
I recently rewatched the video of the UN assembly laughing to his face. Insanity that he's still respected as any kind of statesman
He isn’t. He’s just got people who vote for him anyways
That's not unusual for Americans, though. Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Nixon... Americans have been putting up turds to the Oval Office since President Kennedy's term abruptly ended.
All of those guys were way more respected than Trump. And of the rest, all of the others not Bush jr were way more respected than Bush jr.
The current period IS very unusual for how badly our reputation has fallen. Although you could also say America's reputation around the world was unusually high from 1945-2000.
Turns out Kennedy too was more of a turd than most people suspected at the time. Not in the same league with your list, but still a real mess once you know enough about him.
Turd on turd violence. But it did seem like Kennedy was ready to fix Truman's mistake in kicking off the Cold War.
And then...
Once you read enough about post-WWII Soviet military doctrine, you'll realize that the Cold War is the reason the Hot War didn't happen. Not like Vietnam and so on, but real hot.
Why? Because that doctrine was quite simple. Soviet ground forces after its adoption sucked donkey balls because they were intended to mop up what remains after nuking Europe. BMP-1 sucked donkey balls because it wasn't an armored transport, it was a protected transport. To rapidly cross rivers and swamps on irradiated terrain, while kinda protecting people inside from radiation, not from bullets even. The whole reason USSR's ground forces after WWII had a reduced peacetime component, but huge mobilization plans and mass warfare approaches, is that they were expected to die from radiation a lot, so why bank on quality.
EDIT: And contrary to the common perception, even in WWII human waves were not the tactic of choice of USSR's military. So this was a conscious change, an enormous reform. I can say I can't avoid the feeling of huge respect for people who would really tackle the numbers and warfare theory to produce such a plan to nuke half the world and possibly emerge as a victor. However, the reforms after that plan made already corrupt Soviet bureaucracy even more corrupt, and discarded experienced and principled people, recent world war veterans, from the military in droves, which long-term made USSR's failure certain. Before the post-war rebuilding and Khruschev some of its institutions and systems were still respected. Stalin's regime was horrible, but it was also less corrupt. After Stalin's death and the following events, nobody managed to say "we failed and we should sit and think". Well, Kosygin's reforms which were not completed, growth of MIC, use of soldiers and students as workforce, slow decay, KGB thieves\assassins and degenerate fascists becoming the ruling class since late 70s, the rest is known.