I want the war in Ukraine to end. I want them to negotiate the best and most obvious solution to this conflict for the parties involved. I want the war to end because then people will not be getting killed.

You want NATO to keep supporting Ukraine, to keep Ukraine away from negotiating. You want this, because... i don't know why.

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm saying the Ukrainians should not be expected to negotiate, given that it is their land being invaded. If Putin doesn't like that, he can pound sand and leave.

If someone invades your house, you wouldn't just given them a room and bath to have them clam down.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So in your mind they should not negotiate and fight to the last Ukrainian because your conception of geopolitics is a home invasion?

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm saying Ukraine should take their aid and push Russia back, as they are doing quite well. Russia isn't doing too hot there right now.

[–] CriticalResist8@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If Putin doesn't like that, he can pound sand and leave.

Or he can keep grinding Ukrainians that are poisoning their own soil with mines, cluster ammo and depleted uranium because I assure you Ukraine isn't winning this and even their NATO backers are announcing it now that the "spring counter-offensive" has failed.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

If someone invades your house, you wouldn't just given them a room and bath to have them clam down.

I sure am glad that libs are aware that international relations are complex issues that cannot be boiled down to household analogies. It sure would be frustrating if they tried to make this into some simple black/white scenario with good guys and bad guys separated from material reality and historical context