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[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I already answered your first paragraph in the comment you replied to, but I'll embellish. Not every wealthy person involved in politics is in favor of insanely low taxes on corporations and the wealthy. Over reliance on austerity to balance the national budget is ultimately not in their best interest, and some of them are bright enough to realize it. Those are the concessions I mentioned.

The stark reality is that the situation for working Americans has gotten worse under both Republican and Democratic administrations. It's not just because Republicans have always managed to out maneuver Democrats in leveraging power. It has often been caused directly by Democratic legislative "successes". "The era of big government is over!" came from Bill Clinton as he shredded federal welfare programs. Obama reacted to the mortgage crisis by bailing out his Wall Street donors and hanging homeowners out to dry.

As for your second paragraph, it's as delusional and historically ignorant as anything I've heard out of MAGAts. Democratic victories are necessary for progress, but it's only the threat of immanent fascism that has historically driven Democrats to make improvements.

Biden went from being one of the most conservative Democrats in Congress to the most progressive Democratic President in fifty years. All it took was a massive fascist movement barking at his heels.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Democratic victories are necessary for progress, but it’s only the threat of immanent fascism that has historically driven Democrats to make improvements.

Not true. It is firm control of congress and the presidency. That is what created the New Deal and the Civil Rights era.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago

“It was this administration which saved the system of private profit and free enterprise after it had been dragged to the brink of ruin.” President Roosevelt, on how his emergency actions in 1933 prevented a revolution and saved capitalism.

FDR was an elitist and a racist, but he understood that capitalism couldn't survive that moment by continuing a hard line against interests of the citizenry. The new deal was another compromise to protect the establishment from causing it's own destruction.