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I tried to selfhost Nextcloud at work (feddit.it)

submitted 1 month ago by Moonrise2473@feddit.it to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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And it failed spectacularly.

We only needed a simple form, but we wanted to be fancy, so we used "nextcloud forms".

The docker image automatically updated the install to nextcloud 30, but the forms app requires nextcloud 29 or lower. No warning whatsoever. It's an official app, couldn't they wait that it was ready for NC 30 before launching it? The newsletter boasts "NC hub 9 is the best thing after sliced bread" yet i don't see any difference both in visual or performance compared to NC hub 2

Conclusion: we made our business to rely on nextcloud forms as a signup form, but the only reason we were using it was disabled who knows how many weeks ago.

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[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Docker is probably the simplest way to get a working deployment, since there's a lot of moving pieces in a Nextcloud install.

Though, it's not going to automatically update itself unless you've made a poor choice for a production environment configuration, which sounds like what happened here.

(Even using a latest tag isn't really a problem until/unless you re-pull the image to do the upgrade. And/or have configured something to automatically update your shit, but again, don't do that in production.)

Nextcloud is also annoying in that updating the base won't pull all the apps to a current version, so you have to know what's going to break before you update the base so you can then update the apps as needed. Which, again, can't just be left up to automatic updates.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Exactly. I don't know if the AIO image was used and how that all works (I stay away from that and the snap which is just an abomination) but no one should try to selfhost anything for prod unless they know exactly how it works. That and have a staging env. If you're not up to the task then just pay for some commercial hosting (even if it's just Nextcloud that is hosted elsewhere.)

I've run the nextcloud image (just docker.io/nextcloud IIRC) pinned for years with k8s and it's durable and fine. It stays put and I just take the time to update my testing instance, make sure it all works with some cheap smoke tests, then upgrade prod.