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Fuck that. We don't even have capital punishment in canada anymore.
You guys also did away with your penny, legalized recreational cannabis nationally, and instituted universal healthcare. If the US followed suit in any of these four things, I would be so happy.
Im a single issue voter regarding keeping the penny for no particular reason.
You might be interested in this article. Pennies are essentially just a logistical burden, an unnecessary cost to produce, something with historical precedent for doing away with, something Canada who had a similar-value penny to ours when they stopped producing it doesn't seem to miss, a huge source of litter and environmental damage, and not at all beneficial to the consumer.
There's really no rational argument to keep the penny outside of familiarity, and I would be willing to bet that if we'd removed the penny several decades ago and a 2024 reintroduction came up, it would be wildly unpopular and would receive widespread pushback.
Nah, getting rid of the penny will require rounding prices of things and there's no way stores won't take that opportunity to gouge us even more.
There's simply no evidence to support that claim and indeed evidence to the contrary. This is just misinformation spread by the zinc lobby, and I'm sorry that I have to tell you that, yes, the zinc industry is paying money to gaslight you into keeping their useless product around too. That is, this is zinc industry FUD.
With these three facts, we're already at a point where you're gaining nothing per transaction by keeping the penny and you're in a relatively steep penny debt each year by nature of them being minted. However, let's continue.
If you routinely do cash transactions, try to consider how much of a cumulative hassle and overall cost pennies make things outside of just minting them.
Pennies are pretty unambiguously a net detriment to everyone except the zinc industry. The one being gouged right now is you by being forced to subsidize the zinc industry's less-than-useless product.
I'm not reading all that. I rarely use cash so all the bits about time spent handling it don't affect me. Also it's not me paying to mint pennies, it's taxes, even if they stopped making them I wouldn't get that money back. It'd just be spent on some other bullshit. The only factor I care about is the prices of things and after seeing what they did with the excuse covid provided I don't trust corporations to not do it again.
My concern is not coming from any information provided by a lobby. It's coming from my past experiences seeing corporations jump on any and every chance to take more money out of my pocket.
More than likely it would go to some other graft, not anything that would benefit me. It might as well be wasted on pennies which at least keep corporations from increasing prices due to having to round. That at least keeps some money in my pocket.
The easiest method would be just to always round up. If they wanted to squeeze a little harder then maybe go up 10-15 instead. What's anyone going to do about it? You may say a few cents doesn't matter but I get a few cents cash back every time I use my card and that alone covers all my christmas shopping on amazon at the end of the year. It's not negligible. As for why it hasn't happened in canada, capitalism has escalated a lot since then and they've gotten a taste of what they can get away with during covid.
The law in Canada specifies how you round both down and up, and it's not ambiguous. The reason why it hasn't happened in Canada is because the law in Canada trivially renders your proposed method impossible, not because Canadian companies haven't specced into gouging enough.
With that basic misconception cleared up, I'll ask again: What would be the mechanism by which this ‘price gouging’ would occur?
What prevents companies in Canada from setting prices in such a way that they always round up?
There's no guarantee that such a law would be the same in America. The majority of our law makers are bought and paid for. It would be trivial to "lobby" them to just leave that part out.
You can plunder my pennies from my cold dead hands.