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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 51 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It looks like a response to the talk of doing deep strikes into Russia. According to the updated nuclear doctrine, Russia might decide to respond with a nuclear strike. Putin also mentioned an attack on Belarus explicitly, so maybe they're expecting something there too?

[–] CommCat@hexbear.net 72 points 3 days ago (3 children)

For those who don't understand why doing deep strikes inside Russia with NATO supplied missiles is a declaration of War on Russia by NATO. These long range missiles needs satellites to get coordinates and guidance, Ukraine obviously does not have them, which means NATO is directly involved in launching these missiles. If these Western leaders are that crazy to directly confront Russia, we might have WWIII.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 69 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is probably the closest we've been to a nuclear holocaust since the Cuban missile crisis.

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago

I will have very little sympathy for whoever fires a nuclear weapon, tactical or not. Then again, I'll probably be vaporized while I'm reading about it in the news mega.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Putin also mentioned an attack on Belarus explicitly, so maybe they’re expecting something there too?

I don't think there is something explicit, but Poland and Baltic yapping dogs of empire actively try to coup Belarus for decade now and i read some crackpots saying NATO could do "an SMO in Belarus that totally wouldn't be war, isn't it" and using one of the myriad NATO maneuvers in the region to cook up some provocation.

So even if there's nothing but talk, Belarus is still percieved as next area of proxy conflict and Putin wants to cut that out by saying attack on Belarus is attack on Russia. He also getting points for that in Belarus which finally got disillusioned about cooperation with west few years ago.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

The west has been trying to turn Belarus into another Ukraine for a while now, and that's ultimately what pushed Belarus join Russia. It's rather amusing how self defeating western maximalist policies are. It's like a Greek tragedy where the protagonist's actions in fighting against prophecy lead to it being fulfilled. If the west just allowed Ukraine and Belarus stay neutral, then they likely would've fallen into western orbit over time. By forcing the issue the west destroyed Ukraine and pushed Belarus firmly into Russian orbit.

[–] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's the gist of what I heard. I'm scared if he makes good on it. I hate that the fate of billions has been toyed with like this since the invention of atomic weapons.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

indeed, and the really scary part is that the leadership in the west is completely deranged

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

the leadership in the west is completely deranged

Ultimately this is the core of it. During the Cold War the yanks at least tried to understand the Soviets: how they thought, what motivated them, what made them tick. They really put a lot of effort into understanding their enemy, and MAD was treated as a real actual threat to be avoided.

There is no such effort made today. It's just rabid defense contractors sitting on their thrones of human skulls, in front of their Scrooge McDuck sized piles of money. All they want is domination and control. They want to destroy and balkanise Russia so they and their buddies can get more contracts and colonise the newly formed, broken up states and make even more money. All the while the media is chanting "Slava Ukraini!" and whipping the scratched libs into a genocidal frenzy.

LINE MUST GO UP stonks-up frothingfash

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

Exactly, it's just a bunch of petulant children running things egged on by the oligarchs.