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[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What exactly would the missiles accomplish? Let the Ukrainians let throw more soldiers into a pointless meat grinder for a while longer? I want to strangle every single Western politician

[–] MoreAmphibians@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago

Ukraine's only way of winning is direct US/NATO intervention. So their only hope is to keep escalating and hope something happens. If Russia has an unmeasured response and begins attacking the NATO planes guiding Ukraine's attacks or commits civilian reprisals then that might be enough to get the US directly involved (maybe).

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's just a completely pointless escalation that's bringing us closer to WW3.

[–] Mantikora@hexbear.net 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I'm going to get so downvoted for this, lol. Wasn't Putin who attacked Ukraine? So who is escalating? At this moment we have two major criminals who are stubborn over their goals and won't stop fucking killing and wars. Fuck them all. You can't shit on USA and praise Russia. Same scummy coin, just different sides. They would all like to rule the world, fuck them.

Also, stupid Putin ruined the only paradise in the world, Chernobyl. You see, years after the nuclear accident, nature in Chernobyl started to flourish, animals came back because there was no humans there. A fucking paradise, I tell you. And then fucking Putin's troops march through Chernobyl, raise the radioactive dust and scare my animals with their war machines. So fuck that guy. I don't know why are you defending that asshole here, but he's an asshole and a murderer.

[–] MoreAmphibians@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Ukraine was already at war with the Donbas republics when Russia intervened. The order is events is as follows. Russia recognizes Donbas republics --> Ukraine massively escalates the shelling of the Donbas republics --> Russia invades Ukraine. The central Ukrainian government repeatedly refused to actually abide by any of the ceasefires it had signed and was shelling its separatist regions on-and-off for eight years while Putin stood around with his thumb up his ass.

The animals in Chernobyl seem to still be doing fine as far as I can tell. Scientists are still studying them and publishing papers. There were was some extra radiation revealed by the dust being kicked up but animals don't really care about that, it's why Chernobyl became a wildlife haven in the first place.

We don't have downvotes here.

[–] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

this is a lib being stupid, they dont deserve your sincerity

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

Most people here have no love for the Russian Federation, except that it is opposing the west.

[–] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm going to get so downvoted for this, lol. Wasn't Putin who attacked Ukraine? So who is escalating? At this moment we have two major criminals who are stubborn over their goals and won't stop fucking killing and wars. Fuck them all. You can't shit on USA and praise Russia. Same scummy coin, just different sides. They would all like to rule the world, fuck them.

I can shit on both, i can also conveniently allow russia to shit on the west and find it funny. NATO escalated first, america escalated first, not just in 2014, but in 1991 when they made the soviet union collapse. In every year since 1917 where they attacked and strangled the soviet union in its cradle. America created the conditions for Putin in the first place, america created the conditions for this whole conflict, and america exploited it for profit. And then we have you idiots ditzing about wondering why things happen lmao. Russia is a shitty corpse of humanity's hopes and dreams that AMERICA made and should rightly be blamed for. Ukraine did everything America told it to do, and its going soooooooooooo well for them.

Russia might want to rule some of ukraine, and definitely wants to throw its weight around, but America is the only country that has shown aggression towards every nation. Russia increases trade and aid relations, america brings debt, coups, and corruption.

So can you please shut your damn mouth and fuck off to whatever stupid corner of the internet you came from?

Also, stupid Putin ruined the only paradise in the world, Chernobyl. You see, years after the nuclear accident, nature in Chernobyl started to flourish, animals came back because there was no humans there. A fucking paradise, I tell you. And then fucking Putin's troops march through Chernobyl, raise the radioactive dust and scare my animals with their war machines. So fuck that guy. I don't know why are you defending that asshole here, but he's an asshole and a murderer.

Calling the remains of a irradiated city in a corrupt reactionary backwater state 'the only paradise in the world' is peak fucking stupidity. 'my animals' who are you the fucking lorax? God what even are you lmao?

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

America created the conditions for Putin in the first place...

America demanded the conditions

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm going to get so downvoted for this, lol

michael-laugh we don't have downvotes

[–] Mantikora@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What is this down arrow for then?

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

We don't have a down arrow on hexbear