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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 53 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I want my car the same way I want to go to work tomorrow.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This exactly. Do I want a car in the US' current car-centric hell where taking a bus across town could take two hours? Yeah, absolutely. Would I want one in a US with robust public transit and micromobility infrastructure? Almost certainly not. It's a constant financial drain and huge pain in the ass at every turn.

When people say we need to get rid of cars, we mean that we need to 1) build up viable alternatives to cars and in conjunction 2) stop letting the interests of cars dominate everything else. Car drivers in the US are actively given enormous privilege over every other mode of transportation. Businesses need to meet ridiculous parking minimums to ensure you can drop your giant metal box anywhere, anytime and for free, dramatically reducing walkability; speed limits are basically never enforced, speeding up car commutes but dramatically increasing the danger for those who elect for micromobility; ungodly amounts of transportation funds get funneled into unsustainable road projects while public transit starves; car companies are deliberatelly allowed to skirt environmental regulations by selling even less environmentally friendly trucks and SUVs; and basic traffic calming measures are given ridiculous thresholds like "Have X number of people died here yet?"

If you start taking away the insane privileges that are afforded to and often even mandated for cars, you make way for other means of transportation to grow and become the optimal choice for most people. Some people will still use cars because they need to or want to, but even those people will use them less frequently.

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I want my car, and I want 100 others. I just can't afford all the cars I want. Most of the people I know also want more cars or sportier, more expensive cars.

[–] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So, in your view, a car is more like an accessory than a mode of transport.

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

It's an enabler of more. It allows me to transport me and my family to the movies when we want, it allows us to go camping, it also means we can easily traverse many shops and buy what we want without having to worry about how to get it home, etc.

When we buy groceries, we buy them in bulk and keep meats in a freezer out back, so it's easy to transport a whole trunk-load of groceries home.

It's as much as an accessory as that too. It's like clothing. I like my small 2 seaters, and as a family we like to drive around and play ingress/pokemon go, together.