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[–] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I don't believe the American people are good enough to reject genocide, but I'm willing to be proven wrong.

Oh, and how is Nate Silver still around? I thought the humiliation of 2016 should have made him crawl under a rock to hide forever

[–] penitentkulak@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't get why a 70/30 projection for Clinton should have humiliated him? He was more skeptical of Hillary than a lot of mainstream media. What should humiliate him are his dogshit analysis of political strategy and COVID stuff, not his projections

[–] FungiDebord@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I thought the humiliation of 2016 should have made him crawl under a rock to hide forever

Huh? Silver was literally the only "serious" prognosticator who forecasted a possible upset; everyone else thought it was a no contest (Princeton gave it like a 99.5% "Bayesian" prediction for Hillary).

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

"Bayesian"

"Bayesian" in contemporary use means "make up numbers and apply those made up numbers until whatever result you want to happen looks likely, even inevitable." big-yud

[–] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Am I misremembering? Who was the statistician who predicted a slam dunk for Clinton and then later released a post about why he got it wrong?

[–] FungiDebord@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

it may have the Princeton Consortium guy. i think he said he'd literally eat his shoes, or a pile of bugs or something if he lost -- i'm sure he at least ate rhetorical crow and had to follow up with a mea culpa post.

[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

I don't believe the American people are good enough to reject genocide, but I'm willing to be proven wrong.

Pretty much. Though even then it's also a toss-up, because the system genuinely has nothing to offer and anyone with sense knows it, Klanmala's "joy" and genocidal vibes can't replace the actual material conditions Trump is calling out (though he won't fix them either).

A bad country, with a bad society (many good people, but a profoundly and perhaps inherently sick and wretched society), and admittedly they'll get what they deserve (same counts for my country and the entire west TBF).