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Saw this thread, and it really hit a chord with me, as these similar fears tend to constantly weigh on me (for various reasons- being trans, ethnic Chinese, commie, etc).

I think we all (leftists, but also just most minorities) know, shit is bad and will get worse, it's just a question of how bad it will get. People mention it offhand without usually going further into the details, and similarly in other spaces - non-leftist ones as well, for instance Asian diasporic and LGBT spaces in my experience, these fears come up, but ultimately we keep the bulk of our concerns to ourselves. What are our expectations here, for the west? Not just for the US, but the Anglosphere and Europe?

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[–] iByteABit@hexbear.net 20 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

No one can know than in advance, but it will also depend on what resistance fascism will find itself opposed to.

Will it find an unorganized working class where half of them expect an elected saviour and another part of them fight against fascism without fighting against capitalism and towards revolution? Or will it find an organized working class with a strong vanguard party that has the ideological preparation, the ability to reach out to them, strong and massive unions, etc?

This is not the whole part of the equation but it is one that relies mostly on us. It is our job to organize the working class and get them to unite under a common direction, and more importantly to provide them with a realistic and necessary alternative to capitalism without expecting it to arrive magically but through every day collective action. Fascism gains ground where there doesn't seem to be a viable alternative to the current system, when people have been too propagandized to ever consider a revolution as a possible alternative and there's no force saying otherwise effectively, so they fall into the populist magic solution bullshit that fascists provide in an attempt to see real change in the system.

[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 14 points 4 weeks ago

Or will it find an organized working class with a strong vanguard party that has the ideological preparation, the ability to reach out to them, strong and massive unions, etc?

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