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I would love it if people would forget these silly "material conditions" sometimes.

I think exploring your own vision of a better world is really healthy and hearing and discussing others' ideals is educational.

Yes, the world is ass and our pathways to FALGSC are basically nonexistent. I'm not saying people should be living in LaLa Land, but even with the way things are I just think it would be nice to hear people's aspirations! blob-no-thoughts

So what's your unrealistic, niche, but admirable ideal?

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[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

My idealist comment that made me want to post this: https://hexbear.net/comment/5538289

I think our entire approach to education and training is just fundamentally flawed from the ground up, like so many other systems in place.

The education system should be tailored to identify each person's passions, talents, and aptitudes from a much earlier age. I know peoples' preferences change but by the time you enter high school, you are old enough to start specializing for your future imo.

While kids still have access to the resources public education provides and the time to take advantage of them, we should be giving them every opportunity to explore everything they can learn and focus on learning what they like. And I definitely don't just mean 'practical' or 'utilitarian' skills. Some kid is an amazing painter? Let them triple the amount of art classes if they don't want to take a foreign language and math. Mathematician? Writer? Chemist? Same goes.

I understand a well rounded education is important so people can have a broader view of the world and understand the work other people do, but what we're doing now is wasting so much potential.

Super idealist I know, but how did we make a society where the kids are an afterthought? sadness

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

like a couple others have said, this isn't "idealist" at all in the Marxist sense of the word ie. opposite to materialist. coming up with utopian visions of how to transform aspects of society is a crucial preliminary part of any revolutionary project! marx did it a whole bunch!

[–] real@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

Andrewism has a couple great videos on schooling which I highly recommend anyone reading this check out.

[–] starkillerfish@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

I agree with other commenters that this is not idealist in the Marxist sense. Additionally, there are already educational systems like that, at least in Europe that I am familiar with. Kids can choose subjects to specialise in pretty early on.

[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

how did we make a society where the kids are an afterthought?

IMO, it's honestly a lot worse than an "afterthought"- hence why Marx called for the abolishment of the bourgeois "family."

Capitalism inevitably commodifies everything- (and children, humans in general, etc. have been commodified long before capitalism developed IMO, though not on anywhere remotely comparable in scale).

Look up the "baby farms" of Victorian England, or the history of child labor (which is now making a comeback in the US), and the incredibly twisted history and current reality of international adoption networks, etc (and the corruption within the foster care system, institutional and by fosters as well).

Honestly as someone who feels strongly about it from personal experiences- the treatment of "parental rights" and a lot of the narratives around it are blatantly rejecting children's equal rights in favor of seeing them as property...

IMO: the children weren't an afterthought, not under capitalism. The system we live in has many, many people for whom they are not "afterthoughts" but rather how they make their wealth.