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Like that's a self dunk. Why did Democrats vote with Republicans? Why weren't they instantly executed? Why were such opportunists allowed in the party?

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[–] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Who was the Joe Manchin of that time period? There’s always however many are necessary to ensure gridlock.

[–] FactuallyUnscrupulou@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Biden, Lieberman and Moynihan were all more than happy to defy the party line for their own interests. Dan Moynihan was particularly shitty about abortion rights, he accused women abortion activists of being bad for the party image.

[–] edge@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The dumbest thing is the way the party treats politicians that defy it.

Lieberman fucks with Obama's plans then gets primaried? The party supports his independent campaign to defeat their own nominee. Biden is an anti-abortion shithead among other things? Rewarded with the vice presidency then the presidency.

It's one thing to have no morals or beliefs, but at least have some control of your "party", don't just let high up members defy you at every turn.

Unless it's from the left of course, e.g. Bowman and Cori Bush.

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago

It's almost like these people are playing an important vole for the democrats

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