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That was never going to happen, she was adamant about her support for Israel even when it was obviously detrimental to her.
Well, she is not the only person to decide, and there are more democrats in favour to stopping the genocide than there are republicans with own opinions.
What are your sources about that? And I was not talking about majority vs minority, but count of not-zionist-democrats vs count not-zionist-republicans
So in other words, I bet, the brave people that demonstrated for 🇵🇸 in America are more likely vote democratic than republican
And, of course, a dual-poly government (like only two strong parties) is nearly as bad as only one party government, so it is reasonable that US people always have to decide between bad or worse.
Yes but the base has no actual power within the party and the leadership is as zionist as the republicans
Jo that is why republicans are the worse decision 😅
https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=Q05&recipdetail=S
Also see: AIPAC
Yea, do you really think the number stays lower for trump than it would have under harris?
What number? AIPAC donates equally to both. Zionism is bipartisan. Neither is gonna be lower or higher.
They're both genocidal monsters. Organize.
The number of dollars going to isreal
We've already sent...so much. Trump would just be adding more, sure. But this administration has already given over 10 billion dollars.
There's a more that non-zero chance of Trump also being a bumbling incompetent and fucking up the relationship with Israel as he is a wanna-be strongman. Either way, Israel is getting money. More money to Israel doesn't make a genocide happen any less. There's no "Super-Genocide". It's as evil as it gets. Children are being mauled. Babies are getting stomped by IDF soldiers and women being raped. Giving more money just ensures a higher paycheck for those doing it and easier time putting more bombs in strategic supplies.
That is well written text and there is nothing in that text that I disagree with..
I don't have a source for how many Democrats are Zionist vs. how many Republicans. It doesn't really matter, because as long as the majority of a party supports Zionism, who cares if technically the other party supports it more?
Well, it does matter if you can talk normally with one side but not with the other and if those two are the only options
I’m generally against violence, but if I would live in USA I would join a resistance, I think
Democrats have been in power since the current genocide began
Well, democrats hate a demented president and I believe the power in the senate (where decisions about policies are made) were republican. Additionally, only because the democrats do a bad job, it doesn’t mean that republicans can’t do it even worse.
Trump has stated that he thinks genocide-Bibi is doing “a good job”. I hope that says it all, isn’t it?
Obama had a democratic supermajority during his presidency and refused to enact/codify roe v wade and multiple other major decisions for working class citizen...like accepting a shitty republican healthcare program he didn't have to. The excuse of "republicans are stopping us!" is complete horseshit.
Democrats aren't hindered by republicans. Senate always has trouble agreeing on things unless it's military aid for bombing brown people or cutting funding to programs.
I am still in believe that some democrats changed their opinion since then..
By supporting Kamala/zionism (I sent you a link by Opensecrets which documented AIPAC donations), attacking Jill Stein/Claudia and expanding on Trump's border wall policy...not much has changed.
Yea so what you want to say, is that it did not matter who won anyway?
Well that could be, and I think there will be no definite proof stating otherwise, nonetheless, I think, that way more people suffer with the USA president we have now.
It matters where your principles stand and where your morals begin. Engaging in electoralism to reinforce genocide shows where they are. Voting PSL would be an example of at least engaging in electoralism to show you don't support genocide.
The decay is faster. As the old Dwarven saying goes...it was inevitable.
I agree, I am privileged enough to live in a country with a voting system where I can vote in line of my morals and it affects politics more or less in the direction I prefer (e.g. I vote pirates and by that I give oder parties with similar morals more power as well).
In America, if you vote PSL, you affect the politics to go more into republican side, where I think morals differ more to PSL than democrats morals
But that’s just me viewing from the outside
How does that logic work when even adding third party votes to Kamala's side that she still wouldn't have had enough to win the electoral or popular?
You have not known this at time you vote, normally one vote prior the ballots are counted.