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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 314 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Literally in a car with an immigrant right now who voted Trump because things were cheaper before covid.

FFS.

[–] DerArzt@lemmy.world 195 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Anecdotal evidence that the right is for the uneducated.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 105 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anecdotally... About 75% of the right that I know/met.

The other 25% is a mix of racism, greed, and conspiracy theory.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Every time they'll be complaining about the price hikes under Trump, just remind them of why they voted for Trump. This is the best course of action against "collective amnesia" as we call it in Hungary.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago

Oh alongside the loss of benefits they rely on (which I told them about), the pandemic potential with the worst Kennedy, even their friends which are of varying ethnicities and going to be targeted, the list is.... Long.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

How do you come back from it?

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Solid distinction.

Religion primed the rubes, and a new godhead told them he is their salvation.

[–] Bookmeat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Religion didn't prime them. Religion merely exploits the same human psychological weaknesses. This is why they go hand in hand.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Hmm. Maybe look up what priming (verb) means.

[–] Bookmeat@lemmy.world 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I know what it means. I guess I didn't make my point clear enough, that's on me. I didn't think I had to write it for an eli5 audience.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 1 points 23 hours ago

Whatever makes you feel better

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So sad that dumbasses who think the President controls grocery store prices and gas prices have done this to us all.

I voted for Harris and my state went red for Trump as usual. Just sad and disgusted at it all today.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How do you expect people to think any differently when there is nobody combatting that narrative at the national level? That is something the Democrats could have been hammering on.

[–] JoShmoe@ani.social 1 points 19 hours ago

The democrats were too busy staring at him.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Uh, just basic knowledge of how the President's job works? Stuff we learn in grade school. Everyone should know this, but people are idiots.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Right, which is why you educate them and make the case for them to vote for you, or else the other side will spread their disinformation without any competing narrative. That's kind of the entire point of a presidential campaign. Just calling people idiots isn't going to make them not be idiots.

[–] doublehelix@lemmy.cafe 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Grocery stores are making record profits. Do they really think they are going to voluntarily cut prices? They know there will be no oversight under trump (not that Biden did anything about price gouging). Prices are going to go up even higher.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not if people don't have enough money, then they'll take the five finger discount.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wouldn't put it past the stores to ask for an executive order to make theft punishable by losing fingers.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't expect everybody to be politically aware, but there's "not politically aware" and then there's whatever that is.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Just wait until the leopards start eating their faces. Act surprised.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 23 hours ago

Honestly, I'm going to try and leave.

[–] ealoe@ani.social 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Instead of mocking people like this, us on the left really need to understand them and how to appeal to them better than Trump. Dude is a billionaire and managed to convince working people he's on their side. He's winning the populism game because no one else is even playing it. Time to beat him at his own game

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 22 hours ago

How do you get the Democrats to run somebody like Sanders when they don't even have a primary? The DNC boned the entire country. Again.

[–] aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't pretend to know how to accomplish this. I may be completely wrong here, but two things that have to go:

  • Religious thought ("faithbrain" or the Peter Pan-esque belief that things are true because you believe they are true, despite a lack of evidentiary or even argumentative support, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary)
  • Social media bubbles (billionaires controlling the content people see, creating bubbles of "information" that skew the public in their favor)

There's almost certainly more to do as well, but those things stand out to me. Also, it seems hard to believe that we could make any progress on these fronts given the current situation.

[–] Bookmeat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This won't change. Democrats have to take a lesson in human behaviour. Republican tactics work. Embrace them. Exploit them.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 16 hours ago

I keep waiting for the Left to fight dirty, but... We go high, they go low, and low is what gets elected

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes, but that doesn't matter to republicans.

[–] TurnpikeRangers@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yep, their plan is to remove all immigrants

[–] Baggins@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago

A lot of their own parents and grandparents are going to have to go then. The leopards will not go hungry.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 hours ago

Only the ones who aren't "white".