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[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 1 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I think y'all just need to come to terms that America is further right than the Democrat party, and the Democratic party moving left is not going to help them.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

the Democratic party moving left is not going to help them.

How would we know that? They've never tried.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip -1 points 22 hours ago

Because there's no point flirting with the non-existent further left.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Huh? Obama won by getting leftist votes so that clearly isn't true.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

What leftist votes and in what numbers?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I mean look up Obama's presidential campaign. He flipped red states and won blue states by running on a progressive anti status quo platform, and in doing so wiped the floor with the Republican candidate.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Why would I look it up when I lived through it already. He ran a fairly standard Democratic campaign.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 15 hours ago

Huh???? Okay you gotta be shitting me. I'm not American so while I know that's impossible but I can't really refute their personal experience so can an American around here do it?

I'll just quote this:

Many pundits have considered Obama's 2008 campaign to be one of the greatest political underdog stories in U.S. history.[9][10] The campaign is credited for shifting the status quo of the Democratic platform, especially on issues such as healthcare reform.