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[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 66 points 2 days ago (7 children)

The Office was never good.

There. I said it.

[–] roux@hexbear.net 34 points 2 days ago

Counterargument: The Office is my comfort slop but I also hate myself.

[–] NewDark@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

Counterpoint: The first season was a slog and I can see why people get turned off it. Not to say it's amazing after but it's pretty good until Steve Carrell leaves.

[–] dkr567@hexbear.net 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Not only it was never good but also super cringey and unfunny from my experience of watching some episodes of it.

[–] Edamamebean@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

To be fair it is cringe comedy so the fact that it is cringe is undeniable but also on purpose.

[–] dkr567@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That's a good point you're right. I guess I find cringey comedy to be uncomfortable which I can't explain all too well. Parks and Recs on the other hand that's my slop when I am super not in good mood.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cringe comedy is fundamentally bad, both in quality and moral terms.

[–] Edamamebean@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I understand not liking cringe comedy but can you explain why you think it's morally bad?

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's an inherently down-punching type of comedy.

[–] Edamamebean@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think that's true. Cringe comedy certainly punches down sometimes, as many types of comedy do, but to say it is "inherently down punching" seems pretty rediculous to me. There are plenty of examples of cringe comedy where the majority or all of the cringing is being done at bad people, or people who hold power over others. It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia is a good example. That show definitely has problematic aspects, but pretty much 100% of the cringe moments in it are because of awful stuff the awful main cast are doing. Even going back to the Office, which I don't really like either, I'd argue the majority of cringing that happens is at the expense of Michael, the racist, sexist boss. Obviously both these shows have problematic aspects like most comedy does, and I'm not defending them, but I do think it's kind of rediculous to say that cringe comedy is inherently reactionary, or that it inherently punches down on marginalized people. I won't deny many examples of it do, but that's not because of some inherent flaw in the medium, it's because we live in a deeply racist, sexist, ableist, homophobic and transphobic society, and our popular media reflects that.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

IASIP is totally unwatchable for me, I need characters with at least some positive aspect.

From what I've seen of the Office, even the racist sexist boss isn't "cringe" and the butt of jokes because he's racist or sexist or a boss but because he's profoundly socially unaware and inept.

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago

Ya I fucking hated it. The UK version wasn't enjoyable, and the US version is another level of shit.

[–] Moss@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago

It's desperately unfunny

[–] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’ve never watched a clip, let alone an entire episode and I’m not starting now.

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think it started the mockumentory genre, but I probably wouldn't watch if you're young and not into that genre.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This Is Spinal Tap was around about 20 years before The Office and that probably wasn't the first one.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago

That style has gotten severely overplayed. It went from a novel upending of the normie three camera comedy to be a paint by numbers trope itself.

i thought it was funny :)