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[–] Klear@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago (3 children)
[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 hours ago

I bet you couldn't even name a single example

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

exit polls showed that harris lost mainly on the economy. You just want to pretend it was gaza so you can point fingers.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 hours ago

God forbid someone point a finger for supporting genocide

[–] freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Nope, it was the apathy. Democrats that came out to vote for Biden 4 years ago stayed home. That's a FACT you can count in the number of votes cast this election vs last.

You know what else is a fact? People that stayed home and didn't vote DIDN'T GET EXIT POLLED.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Exit polls and polls leading up to election. Come on now, lets not mince words or pretend the data wasnt obvious. They did know. It was all over the news snce the day she started her run.

"The economy, particularly inflation and the cost of living, is the primary issue for a majority of voters."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm24g1nj364o

Bidens historically low approval rating was well documented, and the reason for it being low was well understood. She chose to say that "she couldnt think of anything she'd change" or something like that. She ran on a platform that had already ended up on the rocks long ago. Centrists just put their fingers in their ears and pretended Biden was the second coming of FDR whenever Biden was criticised, but the numbers were there waiting to be read if you cared about reality and dropped the infantile "rooting for your sports team, blue no matter who" mentality.

88% of Americans disagreed with how the US was acting in the Israeli war on gazans. Did you think that would be cost-free, or that Biden showed he had votes to burn in the last election or the ones before that? he didnt. Harris knew that wouldnt be consequence free. She ran with it anyway. Thats just Bidens stubborn rightwing-fellating petulant stupidity thats been the hallmark of his entire career bleeding into Harrnis' campaign. A competent politician wouldnt have taken on that baggage when it was so obviously going to cost big in swing states.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/arab-american-voters-struggle-to-back-harris-over-u-s-support-for-israels-war-in-gaza

"The vice president has said she would not change from Biden’s policies, and argued that Israel has a right to defend itself. But she has also said that far too many innocent Palestinians have been killed"

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4895174-democrats-middle-east-conflict/

Exit polls are flawed in the sense that the people who don't vote aren't there to begin with.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 12 hours ago

Oh so now we trust polls. Got it.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml -5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 hours ago

Harris lost because of a lack of blue voters who didn't get an exit poll.

There were more red there, and they claim to have voted because of economy because racism and hurting the other team wasn't on the official ticket.