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[–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

Why are americans so fuckin dumb? Instead of pointing their fingers at millions of trump voters, they are pointing it at people with empathy for having anti-genocider stance.

It feels like they are just interested in finding a scapegoat to blame rather than asking the real questions, why did so many people voted for trump? Did kamala, despite having more funding, failed to convey her plan? What happened and why it happened and how can it be avoided?

[–] capital@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Instead of pointing their fingers at millions of trump voters, they are pointing it at people with empathy for having anti-genocider stance.

Trump voters are lost. We (incorrectly) expected those that aren't dumb enough to directly vote for Trump to be smart enough to understand FPTP voting and act appropriately to avoid the worse outcome.

We were wrong.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 hour ago

Why are americans so fuckin dumb? Instead of pointing their fingers at millions of trump voters, they are pointing it at people with empathy for having anti-genocider stance.

It's because of do-gooder derogotation, and generally not caring about winning or learning from mistakes so long as they can save face and protect their egos.

Do-gooder derogation is a phenomenon where a person's morally motivated behavior leads to them being perceived negatively by others.

One possible reason for do-gooder derogation is 'anticipated moral reproach'. This describes a threat to one's moral standing and to their sense of self-worth.

Research suggests that since people are highly sensitive to any criticism or challenge to their morals, they are more likely to put down the source of this 'threat'.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

They’re angry and looking for an easy scapegoat. Even though it’s obviously the wrong one. We all knew Trump was worse, which is why Mehdi Hasan and many others were pleading with Biden to please change course because he was destroying his re-election by his own hand. Biden overruled his advisors and the state department and pressed forward on an unpopular policy in hopes he could get republicans to vote for him and it failed. He undermined his own foreign policy and ruined his own career.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

What funny is, i never heard in news about democrats impose any restriction on israel weapon donation.

You see it is like the media reporting “hamas want a deal” even when hamas october 7 plan was aim at getting a deal to swap prisoner, agreed to Biden deal in July but then the US backtracked their statement.

i went to hamas website and the statement was “Trump should listen to what the American people want”

I believe all these post are by Zionist to create a division in supporting ending the massacres.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

Most likely what happened was inflation and a whole lotta price gouging, and people think Biden was to blame. The same people seem to think that donvict has a magic wand.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

Biden's response to the price gouging was a super bowl ad in which he asked those who were engaging in shrinkflation to cut it out.

[–] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

it was all about the eggs.

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's exactly this.

Trump promised easy solutions to the problems caused by the right, and by corporate oligarchs. They went along with it, and voted for him. They're now in for a wild ride.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yep. This is truly going to be the finding out stage for them, except, unfortunately, all of us are going to pay the price for their stupidity.

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

My wishful hope is that because some of the effects (i.e. prices after blanket tariffs) will be so demonstrably bad for their wellbeing, and will appear much quicker, rather than being delayed (i.e. inflation) that they will actually notice that their own side did something bad, and maybe the more moderate, single-issue voters (primarily those on the economy) will wise up and vote against them in 2028.

If we even have an election in 2028, that is.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml -4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It takes a lot of mental gymnastics to claim he isn't to blame.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, like hearing corporate oligarchs bragging on earnings calls about being able to get away with price-gouging the American people because "Bidenflation"? Didn't require any mental gymnastics, actually.