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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We've had several elections in recent memory where it's been really clear that progressive Democrats win elections compared to centrists (mostly midterm elections but still). Somehow that lesson hasn't stuck, and I wouldn't be surprised if Harris' defeat also doesn't teach this lesson. At this point the old guard really just needs to die.

People want change, GOP is offering it and people are eating it up. They just have no idea how incredibly stupid that version of change is.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

They just have no idea how incredibly stupid that version of change is.

Yeah, when they find out that things like vaccines might be up for grabs they might be in for a real ride.

The fact that it is even a POSSIBILITY is sheer insanity. If donvict had excess deaths during Covid [1], letting a dumbfuck loser like brainworms ban them would kill even more. This time it'd be kids as well as the very old, most likely. Needless, excess death.

And that's just the start on this loser's notion of "change" that we might get...

[1] A bit of a joke. The policy failures of donvict killed nearly half a million Americans.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Seriously. I don't care that much about fluoride in the water being removed for four years, but I'm quite grateful that my youngest is getting the last of his vaccines before January. Hopefully it just ends up a "states rights" thing. Still sucks for herd immunity but at least I'll still be able to keep my family vaccinated.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Still sucks for herd immunity but at least I’ll still be able to keep my family vaccinated.

I suppose. Some states are already in a bad way, like PA: https://www.altoonamirror.com/news/local-news/2024/09/pa-vaccine-exemptions-raises-fear-of-outbreak/

Having a dipshit like RFK being validated, nevermind actually setting policy, is going to set this nation even further backwards.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Indeed. Lending any legitimacy to his conspiracy theories is a bad thing. True of Trump and Musk as well, as with any of that clown car.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Monied interests wield their donor privilege to ensure these lessons are never learned nor discussed in media. This influence is so powerful, Harris campaign wasn’t even allowed to lie and pretend to be populist like Trump had been doing, in order to attempt to win the election. The donors must be appeased above all else.

Personally, I think the Democrats are doomed to ratchet further into the grip of conservatism in perpetuity. But if you really want to reform the Dems instead, it has to start with significant campaign finance reform to end the legalized bribery.