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[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

They bailed out the teamsters pension fund and had to fight Republicans tooth and nail to do it — didnt even result in am endorsement and majority of teamsters still voted GOP.

CHIP act made Arizona flush with manufacturing and construction jobs, still voted GOP.

The reason Democrats lose is because they have to campaign against a made-up Republican that is normal and reasonable and Republicans get to campaign against the Oberlin faculty lounge instead of Democrats

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yet they never tackled the monopolies in the healthcare, food and housing industries responsible for the cost of living crisis, which cost them the election.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Earlier they lost because they didn't support workers, now they lost because they didn't break up every food, healthcare, and housing company.

I imagine if they did break those companies up and still lost you'd find another aspect of the party that isn't to to your liking and pin the blame on that going on and on and on.

If improving people's material conditions worked, the Democrats would win every teamster or every person who relies on the ACA for their healthcare would vote Democrat and they don't.

The reality is that democrats lose because a huge chunk of voters spend 2 hours a day listening to the voice of a guy who sounds like their dad, telling them that Democrats only care about the gays or the blacks or the browns, and even if you think the republicans are weird religious freaks - at least their cruelty is good for the economy. They hear this idea repeated to them over and over and over and over again and when that happens the human mind starts to assume it's the truth.

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No argument that the Democrats focused on unimportant rhetoric. And the lies were damaging, because they were positioned as defending the status quo.

The best way to support workers is to prevent their exploitation

Have a listen to AOCs interviews of her supporters who voted Trump, as well as the swing voters who stayed away. It goes a long way to explain why 20million dem voters stayed away.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No, they get 2 hours a day of that and then when they do get Democrat messaging it's so out of touch as to be laughable. The idea that people are just too dumb to vote Democrat is insulting at best but self defeating in reality. The GOP knows how to get votes.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Crumbs will not be tolerated any longer. Universal Health, Universal Education, Universal Housing. What people want is clear. The message could not have been any louder. They have trouble feeding their family, and Biden is busy taking victory laps whining about why people can't see what a good job he's done. While rent and food are doubling for the large knot of Americans stuck in the 35-40k dollar income segment.

They don't want to hear excuses, and they don't want crumbs. Politicians have the power to knock down any and all barriers to re-aligning the economy. Instead the democrats chose to play to the upper middle class, and donors. They went sharp right and only announced progressive policies when they were losing ground in the polls. People noticed that and knew those promises were as good as Biden's. (toilet paper)