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[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 162 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (15 children)

huh, we wasn't cynically posturing for election purposes, he really wants to die on this hill :/

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 87 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He pretty much did already.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 58 points 1 month ago (4 children)

He'll not be remembered kindly by history for this. Even if he was objectively decent president.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sad but true. I really don't understand why he is so adamant in his support for Netanyahu.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago

Because he's a true believer who's drunk the Zionism kool-aid.

Plus it probably helps that he's received more money from AIPAC throughout his political career than his current net worth.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Because it's self serving.

If Bibi is a war criminal for leveraging an admittedly horrible terrorist attack to commit horrendous atrocities, so is Joe Biden.

What the US did in the 2 decades post 9/11 is no better or worse than what Israel is doing now. Accountability for one means accountability for the other, and Biden doesn't want to be held accountable.

[–] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 month ago

What the US did in Iraq and Afghanistan was wrong, no doubt. There's a lot of reasons for that, ranging from who was actually responsible for 9/11 to all the actual violence between the civilians and soldiers. But systematic extermination is NOT one of those reasons. What Israel is doing in Gaza is 1000x worse. Equating it to how the US conducted its affairs minimizes what's actually happening, muddying the water and keeping people from feeling like they should actually be doing anything about it.

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 138 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fuck you, Biden. Shit like this is what just opened the door to Project 2025.

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 76 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Nope, they lost because they blindly support the billionaires over everyday people. Israel is a tiny symptom of the real problem, which is the concentration of wealth.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

They bailed out the teamsters pension fund and had to fight Republicans tooth and nail to do it — didnt even result in am endorsement and majority of teamsters still voted GOP.

CHIP act made Arizona flush with manufacturing and construction jobs, still voted GOP.

The reason Democrats lose is because they have to campaign against a made-up Republican that is normal and reasonable and Republicans get to campaign against the Oberlin faculty lounge instead of Democrats

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yet they never tackled the monopolies in the healthcare, food and housing industries responsible for the cost of living crisis, which cost them the election.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Crumbs will not be tolerated any longer. Universal Health, Universal Education, Universal Housing. What people want is clear. The message could not have been any louder. They have trouble feeding their family, and Biden is busy taking victory laps whining about why people can't see what a good job he's done. While rent and food are doubling for the large knot of Americans stuck in the 35-40k dollar income segment.

They don't want to hear excuses, and they don't want crumbs. Politicians have the power to knock down any and all barriers to re-aligning the economy. Instead the democrats chose to play to the upper middle class, and donors. They went sharp right and only announced progressive policies when they were losing ground in the polls. People noticed that and knew those promises were as good as Biden's. (toilet paper)

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[–] Ixoid@lemm.ee 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 134 points 1 month ago (5 children)

He welcomes Trump with open arms, and acts like a lame duck. But can still get fired up to defend war criminals and try to stop Bernie’s move to block arms shipments. I don’t even know what to say.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 52 points 1 month ago

You say what was obvious from the start. Democrats were never going to stop the genocide in Gaza.

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[–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 124 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe I'm soft but I find the dead and starving children to be slightly more outrageous

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago

How anti-semitic!

/s

[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 99 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"Were there not an Israel, the United States would have to invent an Israel to protect her interests in the region."

-- Joe Biden

Israel is good for 2 things, as far as 60% of Congress is concerned: destabilizing Muslim countries to prevent a strong coalition from forming, and donating money to US politicians. What's a little genocide in the face of that?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's far too generous. At the very most, 10% of congress is on the right side of history when it comes to America's favorite fascist apartheid regime.

The public in general is closer to 65-35 the opposite direction.

[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That may be true, but only 60% of congress is receiving Israeli bribes. Hence the number I chose.

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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 71 points 1 month ago (5 children)

He's at the end of his career, doesn't need the money to fight the zionists propaganda, so that means he actually believes this.

OR like I suspected before, Israel houses A LOT of secret US intelligence and defense capabilities

[–] buttfarts@lemy.lol 11 points 1 month ago

Yes this. The US isn't shy to back genocides done to secure control of territories held by US friendly regimes. It's kinda their thing really

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[–] Naich@lemmings.world 59 points 1 month ago

Fuck me, that's some selective outrage there.

[–] SarcasticMan@lemmy.world 58 points 1 month ago

Outrageous! How the fuck are we supposed to murder, rob, subjugate, steal, and run our modern-day slave empires if the ICC can just go and arrest people all willy-nilly and shit?

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 49 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And this is why you lost the election. You never fucking learn, do you?

[–] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He, Hillary, and Pelosi need to retire and enjoy doing something else than screwing up with America

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[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 49 points 1 month ago

Doesn’t really matter what he thinks, since the US ain’t part of the ICC. What’s pathetic is countries being part of the ICC, condemning the arrest warrants.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago

We know what you think genocide Joe.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 31 points 1 month ago

Fuck you Joe Biden for sending my country off a cliff all because facilitating a genocide was more important to you than providing my generation a future.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago

dude how about you go and personally strangle Palestinian kids yourself? just get it out of your system, you petrified leather demon.

Joe Biden is literally the Grandpa in the joke "Grandpa died peacefully in his sleep. Everyone else on the bus he was driving died screaming." Grandpa needs to just shut the fuck up and go away already.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

And yet the voters keep getting the blame for Trump getting elected.

[–] coyootje@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

I mean, they're just gonna go from genocide Joe to genocide convicted criminal Donald so not much of an upgrade there.

[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (35 children)

As well they fucking should. Trump isn't going to be any better for the Palestinian people than Biden and Harris. He is, in fact, going to be far worse for them. Also, he's a traitor, a serial rapist, a misogynist, a pedophile, a grifter, and an imbecile. The American voting population either liked what they saw, or didn't care enough to vote against him. Fuck every single one of those assholes right in the face.

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[–] CitricBase@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Genocide Joe vs ultra genocide Trump, great job voters.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm surprised it didn't happen years ago. I'm also outraged that no u.s president has been tried

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 27 points 1 month ago

Hey, Joe: Shut up, man.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

please die together with Trump and Putin

[–] Sagittarii@lemm.ee 18 points 1 month ago

He's mad because there isn't one for him too. They should get working on that.

[–] BMTea@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

LOL earlier he said he disagreed wjth it but it was deserved. Two-faced old bastard.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Honestly fuck joe biden, I hope he falls down some stairs

[–] tostos@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago
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[–] Arelin@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago

I'd say having a senile old man as the head of a country is much more 'outrageous'

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