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Here you go, a "real" source. He said there were more bullet ballots than there likely really are, but there's still a really suspiciously high number of them. How is this not at least worth investigating?

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[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 10 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Damn imagine if true, knowing that your US Government was illegally elected. This really should be investigated for the sake of the entire world.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 27 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Well, we saw it in 2000 so that's nothing new...

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 14 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

according to that planetcritical post I shared, it seems that the public still doesn't know the actual results of the 2000 election? Doesn't seem democratic to me.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago

It doesn't seem democratic because America is a corporate plutocracy masquerading as a democracy.

[–] LodeMike 3 points 12 hours ago
[–] saltesc@lemmy.world -1 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Seems it's been investigated enough and no surprises, the numbers are off and allegations based on no evidence.

Remember when there was a bunch of idiots from the red camp, all bent on the idea Biden stole the election? Well, it's that and the blue camp has idiots too. This is something we'll have to get used to now, a bunch of idiots from X claiming Y stole the election.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Remember when they demanded a hand recount, got it, and then kept lying about the results even after they were verified?

That's the difference.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 20 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Except for one MASSIVE difference, Harris isn't making the claims, calling for violence and to "stop the count"

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 9 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

but it can't be that off the margin. from 1% to 7.2% in the case of Arizona, thats highly suspicious. Also the theory shared by those computer scientists is too damn convincing so those ballots should be hand counted, imho.

https://www.planetcritical.com/p/cyber-security-experts-warn-election-hacked

Also I will never understand why USA insist on using Computers for voting.

Or how a winner-takes-it-all approach is in any way fair or reasonable to the people.

[–] naught@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The source you linked is referencing the claims that snopes is partially debunking

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

"partially debunking" here basically means "correcting numbers that were slightly too large and clarifying the explanation given is a hypothesis". This is still suspicious as heck, especially given all the other ways republican politicians and voters and funders have tried to influence and tamper with the election

[–] naught@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 hours ago

I mean this puts a bad taste in my mouth for the credibility of the letter:

In an email, North Carolina State Board of Elections spokesman Patrick Gannon told Snopes, "Without access to confidential data, there is no way that anyone could know what this individual claims to know about North Carolina's presidential election. North Carolinians cast secret ballots, and cast vote records and ballot images that could potentially provide this information are confidential in North Carolina. My first step in fact-checking this would be to ask the writer to show his work."

I welcome investigation & would fully believe if this is corroborated and true. I won't believe it until then especially when there are crucial discrepancies in tallies that invalidate some (not all) claims from the letter

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -1 points 6 hours ago

Their "theory" amounts to, "the Internet exists". They make no specific claim of a breach in election security and have no evidence of a breach. It's all purely, "somebody could have reprogrammed the machines at some unknown time and place."

They have no theory for how such a reprogramming would be distributed. Just fear mongering about how computers can be programmed to do anything.