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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 157 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Economic vigilantism is really dangerous and if this isn't a one off it's likely an indicator that people feel like justice is unattainable.

[–] BoobaAwooga@lemmynsfw.com 183 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Justice against these people IS unattainable. Nothing fucking touches them, case and point Trump can lead a violent insurrection and nothing happens

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I don't disagree that society has been unjust in actuality for quite some time.

I think public sentiment has been shifting so that more people are aware of how tiered our justice system is and that change in perception is what's interesting.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think Trump has shown people that they don’t need to hide the tieredness of the justice system anymore so it’s not surprising that more people are aware of it.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

Trump is fucking bizarre. In pre-Trump times, the Jan 6th rioters would have been thrown to the wolves even by the politicians aligned with them because, you know, fuck the poor.

The fact that Trump may pardon them is quite surprising.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

a few inches one direction and we wouldn't be saying that.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 8 points 2 weeks ago

Well, it's too late now thanks to the asshole with the aim of a stormtrooper. The criminal won and all of his freaks and monsters are burrowing into America's chest like some drug-resistant, flesh-eating bacteria. Best case scenario, we live with lots of necrotic tissue and deep scarring. That infection started spreading as soon as he named Vance as his successor.

[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 47 points 2 weeks ago

it's likely an indicator that people feel like justice is unattainable

I'm sorry, have you not been paying attention?

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You could look at this as a one off, or if you want to start looking at assassinations in total then you get to include the two trump would be assassins and make a damn strong argument to your point that this is exactly what a society that refuses to hold people accountable looks like. Honestly its the same concept as when the Black Panthers started giving free breakfast to kids, if no one else is going to solve the problem, people will do it themselves.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Are you saying that this is proof of concept?

[–] Notorious_handholder@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

We have concepts of a revolution

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago

it’s likely an indicator that people feel like justice is unattainable.

I think you mean, 'people are starting to wake up to the fact that justice is unattainable'.

Where have you been the last decade or 3? If you're rich and not going after other rich people, you're practically untouchable. Bernie Madoff didn't catch jail time because he defrauded Anne and Bill out of their pension, he defrauded people who ~~have money~~ matter.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 20 points 2 weeks ago

It's so unattainable that it's become something even normies understand. There are rules for us, and there are none for them. Think about how ingrained that has become in U.S. culture recently, and you'll come to the same conclusion the vigilante did.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

In the absence of justice, people settle for revenge instead.

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Idk it sounds like someone else got a lot closer to getting justice than I'll get.

[–] intresteph@discuss.online 9 points 2 weeks ago

And since it is not, there are no alternatives but to switch diets.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

Trump has proven this, and the fact Elon (the richest manchild in the world) is literally in his cabinet now only exacerbates the situation.

I don't think things are radically worse, that's the interesting thing... It's the fact we've discarded any semblance of justice at the highest levels. Like, nobody is even pretending now. The highest office in the land is about to be occupied by an openly corrupt idiot.

When people lose hope in their leaders, they realize it's up to them to change the world. Great acts are often done in the fallout of such times. Both acts of great kindness, and great violence.

Injustices become things to act on when you have zero hope of change from the people who should be enacting change.