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Seriously though, don't do violence.

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[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The state is nothing but a monopoly on the legitimate use of violence.

Which, ideally, is pretty much how it has to work. The state is, ideally, composed of elected representatives and their appointees. The alternative to violence monopolized by elected representatives is violence distributed to private interests. State monopoly of legitimate violence is not great and I agree with the problems inherent to that, but realistically the alternative seems worse. I'm racking my brain for another system, but I can't think of anything that doesn't devolve to oligarch-led private armies oppressing people.

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

state is, ideally, composed of elected representatives

oligarch-led private armies oppressing people.

They're the same picture.

Elections are a venue for competiting oligarchs - US elections are largely just a wealth check - with the bonus that afterwards people feel they've chosen their oligarchs and are less likely to notice that 90%+ of elected representatives only represent the interest of elites.

I do the same thing at work when I need mentally ill people to do what I say. "You can do what I want version A, or do what I want version B, which one?" always works better than "Do what I want!"

I agree that violence management is a very difficult problem with no easy solution. But I don't think giving full control of legitimate violence to the rich is the best solution, which is what a state of elected representatives does.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Still, there's the friction of checks and balances. It's certainly not perfect, far from it, but the alternative is still worse.