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Seriously though, don't do violence.

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[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Violence gave us (the US) freedom from being a colony, freedom from slavery, workers rights, women's rights.....wait a minute.

Why do we get told to not do violence again? Seems like we just need a little bit of organized violence and we can solve problems.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Because violence is a tragedy and in an ideal world there would be no need for it. However, fewer and fewer people these days can pretend we live in an ideal world.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I do think, ideally, we should be able to resolve disputes without violence. We don't live in that world though. Mainly because people that have a lot power and resources worked to keep it that way. They actively work against progress.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

And those people will use violence to continue their oppressive rule.

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago
[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Equivocation much? By your logic either idiots set the standards or it's morally defensible to attack people who kill us slowly.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I do think it's morally defensible for an oppressed group to direct violence toward their oppressors. It's also a tragedy that it comes to that but tragedy and justice are not mutually exclusive. I also think only an idiot would accept the standards in which we are expected to live, therefore to demand satisfaction with such standards would be idiotic.

It doesn't really sound like we disagree about anything. Pardon my earlier tone. I should have been mellower, or at least funnier.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Violence is the one true power from which all other powers are derived.