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[–] Silviecat44@vlemmy.net 5 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Is there a communism society that has succeeded? Lol

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Can you name a pure capitalist state that's succeeded without socialist elements keeping it afloat?

Follow-up: Why hand money to the leeches that do nothing but own shit rather than the workers that fuel the economy?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well I'm not starving and I can choose how to live my life.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I'm not currently dying, so that's about as much as I can ask for.

You do see how cucked you are, right?

[–] Airgoof@vlemmy.net 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Maybe solution is somewhere in the middle, not one of extremes?

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago

We've already tried the middle

[–] Silviecat44@vlemmy.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you can't point to an actual capitalist society that's succeeded, why would there be any meaning in pointing out a communist one that has?

[–] Silviecat44@vlemmy.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Who paid for the roads, fire department, police, Military, postal service, bridges, dams... Shall I go on?

You think taxing people and using that money to fund public infrastructure and services is pure capitalism that's operating without socialist principles?

[–] Cynosure@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Most socialist states are better after their revolutions as opposed to before. The USSR went from a borderline feudal society to putting people in orbit in 50 years. Additionaly, socialist states outperform capitalist ones in similar wealth categories.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago

The USSR collapsed and it was later discovered that it had major internal issues

[–] meekah@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

who says the only alternative to a shafting capitalism like you have in the states is pure communism?

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago

That would be a decent question if we had examples of socialist experiments that were actually left alone to develop and not invaded 2 sevonds after america heard about them

[–] Cynosure@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Most socialist states are better after their revolutions as opposed to before. The USSR went from a borderline feudal society to putting people in orbit in 50 years. Additionaly, socialist states outperform capitalist ones in similar wealth categories.

[–] Silviecat44@vlemmy.net 1 points 2 years ago

Did they get to the moon? /s

Anyway they aren’t around today without capitalism (modern russia) so your point is kind of useless