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[-] Korne127@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

But… he literally isn't. Like just look at twitter, he has ruined it from day one with bad decisions day after day whose impacts haven't shown directly, but now appear more and more with embarrassing effects (The verification badge which is now worthless and has been used to impersonate people and cooperations, the two factor authentification which stopped working, the self-DDOSing, the maximum amounts of tweets one could view per day, the old tweets that got deleted due to a glitch, etc.)
And in other companies it's mostly other people managing the stuff and cleaning up the mess he leaves; especially SpaceX is currently just glad that he isn't too busy with his X playtoy to bother them.
The only thing you may call him somewhat successful in is making out companies that have a potential so he could get into them early and claim their success.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Elon is (maybe was) very much good at what he does. Twitter is a bad example because that whole shit show was a dick measuring content from the get-go.

Fact is, SpaceX wouldn't be SpaceX and Tesla sure as fuck would not be Tesla without his leadership.

He's a piece of shit as a person, and I'd never want to work for him, because his work ethic is unhealthy to say the least (and I personally have a pretty extreme work ethic), but it's schoolyard nonsense to claim he's somehow bad at business. Leading a business may be the one thing he is good at. It's tossing shit just to toss shit.

You can not like him and acknowledge he is good at things.

[-] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Tesla sure as fuck would not be Tesla without his leadership.

You're right, it wouldn't; it would almost certainly be a better company.

Musk got Tesla where it is financially entirely through blatant fraud. "Earning" the company's absurd valuation based almost entirely on dishonest promises of releasing a technology that is entirely unachievable, undesirable, and dangerous is an unsustainable business model, and it's already showing cracks.

The fact that you seem to think that being highly profitable through constant ethical violations in every aspect of the company is to viewed as a succsess is honestly pretty gross.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago

I live in the real world, in which the Tesla turnaround happened before the self driving shit

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago

It's a completely different business vertical. Running a government rocketship contract or vehicle manufacturer isnt the same as software development or social media. Plus he's made so many decisions that are laughably stupid to the layman that it almost seems like he's tanking it purposefully.

Businesses aren't all the same and the same type of person can't run all of them. It's like asking your heart doctor to give you a urologists opinion.

Tesla started with almost nothing, SpaceX was his from the ground up. I'm not certain how much of Paypal was his but something tells me he was in management there too.

No one's claiming he developed the Tesla Model 3, or engineered the landing system of the Dragon boosters himself. He has been in charge of the people who have though, and he seems to be doing well enough of a job to keep those companies going.

So he's not good at managing a social media platform specifically, if he's actually trying and this isn't just a long con to destroy the site for some other end goal.

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