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A space for masculine folks to talk about living under patriarchy.

Detoxing masculinity since 1990!

You don’t get points for feminism, feminism is expected.

Guidelines:

  1. Questions over blame
  2. Humility over pride
  3. Wisdom over dogma
  4. Actions over image

Rules (expansions on the guidelines):

  1. Mistakes should be learning experiences when possible.
    • Do not attack comrades displaying vulnerability for what they acknowledge are mistakes.
    • If you see good-faith behavior that's toxic, do your best to explain why it's toxic.
    • If you don't have the energy to engage, report and move on.
    • This includes past mistakes. If you've overcome extreme reactionary behavior, we'd love to know how.
    • A widened range of acceptable discussion means a greater need for sensitivity and patience for your comrades.
    • Examples:
      • "This is reactionary. Here's why."
      • "I know that {reality}, but I feel like {toxicity}"
      • "I don't understand why this is reactionary, but it feels like it {spoilered details}"
  2. You are not entitled to the emotional labor of others.
    • Constantly info-dumping and letting us sort through your psyche is not healthy for any of us.
    • If you feel a criticism of you is unfair, do not lash out.
    • If you can't engage self-critically, delete your post.
    • If you don't know how to phrase why it's unfair, say so.
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    • This includes promoting gender-neutral traits like "courage" or "integrity" as "manly".
    • Suggestions for an individual to replace a toxic ideal is fine.
    • Don't reinforce the idea the fulfillment requires masculinity.
    • This also includes tendency struggle-sessions.
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    • Post the picture of your new grill in !food (feminine people like grills too smh my head).
    • Post the picture of the fish you caught in !sports (feminine people like fish too smdh my damn head).
    • At best, stuff like this is off-topic. At worst, it's reinforcing genders norms..
    • If you're not trying to be seen as masculine for your lifestyle content, it's irrelevant to this comm. If you are trying to be seen as masculine, let's have a discussion about why these things are seen as masculine.

Resources:

*The Will to Change: Men, Masculinity, and Love by Bell Hooks

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(CW: chapters 4 and 5 contain explicit discussions of sexual assault)

Hello comrades, it's time for our third discussion thread for The Will to Change, covering Chapters 4 (Stopping Male Violence) and 5 (Male Sexual Being). Thanks to everyone who participated the last few weeks, I’m looking forward to hearing everyone’s thoughts again. And if you’re just joining the book club this week, welcome!

I'll be sharing my full thoughts later as there's quite a lot of unpack in these chapters.

In Ch.4 hooks delves into how patriarchal repression of men's emotional worlds most often manifests as violence and rage, especially against women and children, and how patriarchy conditions both young boys and young girls to perpetuate the cycle. Ch.5 explores how patriarchal attitudes extend to the bedroom and twist our popular conceptions of sexuality, sexual fulfillment, and physical and emotional satisfaction.

If you haven't read the book yet but would like to, its available free on the Internet Archive in text form, as well as an audiobook on Youtube with content warnings at the start of each chapter, courtesy of the Anarchist Audio Library, and as an audiobook on our very own TankieTube! (note: the YT version is missing the Preface but the Tankietube version has it)

As always let me know if you'd like to be added to the ping list!

Our next discussion will be on Chapters 6 (Work: What's Love Got To Do With It?) and 7 (Feminist Manhood), beginning on 12/18.

edit: the previous post didn't have the proper links to the pdf book and audiobooks, sorry for that

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[–] dumples@midwest.social 3 points 4 days ago

If you want some more resources to help with your love life and having a healthy relationship with sex I have a few recommendations. Of course a couples counsel would be best and exercise always helps. (Not to make you lose weight or become a Chad but because moving our bodies makes up feel better and more connected to our physical selves). The point of these books and resources is to get you used to thinking about and talking about the sex that you (both of you) want and remove the shame. Shame cannot survive the light so you will need to get more open about what you want and see that it is "normal" and acceptable.

First suggestions is Hot and Unbothered by Yana Tallon Hicks which does a great job to help you identify and communicate what kind of sex you want. It has interactive sections and a good "Yes, No, Maybe" list to get started with a partner. I would also recommend The New Topping Book and The New Bottoming Book both by Janet W Hardy and Dossie Easton. These are kink specific books but they do a great job at laying out what kind of feeling one might seek out from kink and gives great tools to communicate these desires. Even if you aren't kinky I think they are useful because the same tools can be used to ask for anything. After reading about how to negotiate a flogging scene it seems less daunting to ask your partner to do anything (including negotiating your own flogging scene).

Finally I am a huge fan of Dan Savage who has a weekly column and podcast. He's been doing sex and relationships advice since the 90s so has a huge backlog and dedicated following. Its great to see his advice weekly and to see the breadth and depth of things that people are into. Hearing about what everyone else wants makes you feel less alone because everyone has something. He also gives good advice about how to communicate and what to ask for. He does have a very specific point of view that you might not always agree with but its helpful to hear. Good luck.

P.S. A vibrator is just a tool. No one ever says a carpenter didn't build the house if he used a hammer. You are still building a organism if your partner / you are using a vibrator in the same way.