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[–] CDommunist@hexbear.net 24 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Deceiver. If Linux was so simple Linux users wouldn't constantly be posting for help to get shit running

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 19 points 7 hours ago

windows users do this too people are just totally desensitized to it

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 21 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Newbies would post about Windows and Mac if they didn't come pre-installed. :beanis:

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 5 points 3 hours ago

it happens anyway! on this topic people act like nobody ever has issues with windows but issues with windows are actually constant, people are just accustomed to dealing with them and posts about them are relegated to background noise.

[–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 20 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I agree. I've fully been on Linux for almost a year now. Anyone who portrays Linux as being that straightforward and uncomplicated is being misleading and inaccurate. Linux is difficult. Getting it to do things you want is difficult. It takes time and energy and interest.

I'd still advocate to use it. Linux gets easier every year and long may that simplification continue. But don't jump into using Linux if you're not ready to.

[–] NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 10 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I ran archinstaller, then installed plasma, and everything works. My media keys, function keys, suspend on close, all the basic tooling of userspace is there. I guess I had to read a paragraph on a wiki page to make the fingerprint scanner work but I literally just searched "thinkpad fingerprint arch" and installed fprint so hardly mystical.

[–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm glad it worked smoothly for you and it sometimes is a smooth effortless experience for some people; but if you want to "convert" people then you've got to be honest about the fact that people commonly face difficulties. I've commented about my Linux issues before and I can paste the comment again here to give an example:


One of the first issues I had problems with was figuring out what was wrong with Street Fighter 6 giving ultra low frame rates in multiplayer, but working fine in single player. It needed disabling of split lock protections in the CPU.

A recent update in OpenSUSE made the computer fail to boot half the time and made the image on the right half of the screen garbled. I rolled back to before the update and am using it without updating for a few weeks to see if the GPU driver problem gets ironed out.

I installed VMware Horizon for my job's remote work login and it fucked up my Steam big picture mode and controller detection. I didn't bother trying to figure that out and just uninstalled VMware remote desktop.

I managed to install my printer driver, but manually finding the correct RPM file to install would not be tolerable for normies.

I still can't get my Dualshock 3 controller to pair via Bluetooth despite instructions on the OpenSUSE wiki. I've stopped trying to troubleshoot that and use my 8BitDo controller instead.

I still can't find a horizontal page scrolling PDF app.

Figuring out how to edit fstab to automount my secondary drives is not a process normies would be able to execute. I still can't figure out how to use this to auto-mount my Synology NAS.

Plasma recently added monitor brightness controls to software and these seem to have disappeared for me now, and I can't figure out why.

I can't get CopyQ to launch minimised, no matter what I do.

My KDE Plasma task bar widgets for monitoring CPU/GPU temp worked till I reinstalled OpenSUSE, and I can't figure out why they've decided to not work on this fresh install. System monitor can see the temperature sensors just fine still. Update: this seems to have fixed itself (maybe through am update?).

Flatpak Steam app wouldn't pick up controllers for some reason. Minor issue, but unnecessary jankiness.

My laptop fingerprint reader plainly isn't supported.

People do not tolerate this amount of jankiness. And this doesn't include the discomfort with relearning minor design differences between OS's when switching. Linux is a bit of a battle with relearning and troubleshooting things that would never be problematic on Windows.