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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

agree with

I'd accept 'excuse' his actions. I'm firmly of the belief that pain caused the shooter to lose grip of the "hey don't kill people" to where "yeah maybe just this scumbag" seemed okay. And while we wanna kill evil people, vigilante justice is less about them and more about us. And I don't like that us that is willing to kill people outside of the Justice system we built and maintain.

I'm okay with supporting Luigi (if it was him ;-) ) get through this break with reality that was engineered by shitbag HMOs, accepting that a person died (terrible as he was, still a person who could have been rehabilitated), accepting that it was an insanity of a kind, and getting Luigi any help he needs, medical or mental, to get back up to a productive and fulfilling life.

As in, let's not ruin Luigi completely, as already one fixable human is dead so lets not kill another.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 46 points 3 days ago

And I don’t like that us that is willing to kill people outside of the Justice system we built and maintain.

I think this is the disconnect. I don't believe I have any (even 1/330 million) input into what the justice system is. When the Supreme Court is being openly bribed and stacked through legislative malfeasance, and as a result are taking away rights that a majority of the country supports, and yet nothing happens in response, it's not our system. The very fact that there was a massive manhunt for this particular killer while others get ignored and he now has a federal murder charge because he was on a cell phone or planned it in another state or some bullshit is demonstration that this isn't a system built to pursue justice equally. Neither the justice system nor the health system that provoked this reaction is based on codifying the broad cultural consent about "how things should work".

[–] sepi@piefed.social 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe he's guilty of manslaughter in my book. Murder? I don't see it.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Manslaughter is when you didn't mean to kill the person. You might be thinking of justifiable homicide?

[–] sepi@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

He didn't mean to kill him, he just wanted to put a few rounds in the guy