So, I spent the entirety of the Biden Administration saving, planning and then executing an emigration plan. It didn't work because immigration laws change constantly in Canada because racists want to frustrate our freedoms, just like they do at the American southern border. Internationally we live under feudalism. I wasted 4 years and thousands of dollars learning this. If you are lower, working, or middle class, you will not be able to emigrate to another country unless you are willing to do so extra-legally.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

At some point, some countries will start granting asylum to US refugees. It will likely be too little, and too late... but if it's your only option, it'll be better than nothing.

[–] ErsatzCoalButter@beehaw.org 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't BS people with this. Asylum sucks like jail and countries within reach aren't going to offer it.

The actual "only options" involve large amounts of money and/ or abandoning your social standing. These are more realistic than asylum.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Losing social standing is implied. The options are:

Shallow grave
Being hunted
Jail
Undocumented
Asylum <-- better than / worse than
Working abroad
Vacation
Large amounts of money

Maybe you think "asylum = jail", I don't think that. Based on historical precedent, jail is more likely to lead to a shallow grave than asylum.

[–] ErsatzCoalButter@beehaw.org 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

You are right about jail being likely to lead to a shallow grave but would you share more about what you think Asylum is like? I have lots of 1st hand experience around jails but none around asylum, I just know asylum seekers who have compared it to jail.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Asylum is living legally in a country, it ranges all the way from homelessness to a penthouse. You may be thinking of "waiting for asylum", at the equivalent of concentration camps. Not every asylum seeker has to go through that, for example people from Ukraine in the EU got a fast-tracked refugee status:

https://unric.org/en/ukraine-over-6-million-refugees-spread-across-europe/

[–] ErsatzCoalButter@beehaw.org 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm not Ukranian, I can't benefit from that. HBU?